tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post773661506737096834..comments2024-03-29T08:31:38.748+00:00Comments on Steve Does Comics: November 17th, 1976 - Marvel UK, 40 years ago this week.Steve W.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09191442559702617745noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-83455887809185822952016-11-21T13:27:26.535+00:002016-11-21T13:27:26.535+00:00I don't think its really a case of similaritie...I don't think its really a case of similarities, coincidental or otherwise - Ellison won credit and compensation for Terminator and that issue of the Hulk because both were demonstrably nicked from his work.<br />Doubt that credit would have appeared in the Avengers if Marvel weren't concerned it might get out that's where the story had actually come from. <br /><br />-sean <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-30932212440480618512016-11-20T06:27:01.544+00:002016-11-20T06:27:01.544+00:00There was also a low budget science fiction movie,...There was also a low budget science fiction movie, Cyborg 2087 (1966), starring Michael Rennie and Karen Steele, that could be considered a precursor to The Terminator or a swipe from Ellison's Outer Limits TV script. Since Ellison never sued anyone over it (AFAIK), I'd assume he either never heard of it, or decided it wasn't worth bothering with. <br /><br />Ellison is a Doctor Who fan, and, in 1980, he wrote introductions for American reprint editions of Who novels, including Day of the Daleks. So, presumably, he knew about that one. <br /><br />Maybe, in both cases, he just decided, "You can't sue everybody." TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13686814973788356726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-77057042921407755292016-11-20T06:15:33.494+00:002016-11-20T06:15:33.494+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13686814973788356726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-19479166826414118512016-11-19T23:46:25.922+00:002016-11-19T23:46:25.922+00:00After a second failed invasion, The Great Horned T...After a second failed invasion, The Great Horned Toad called off any further expeditions to Earth by his people.<br />M.P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-69221566833030895592016-11-19T18:37:37.146+00:002016-11-19T18:37:37.146+00:00Judging by the lack of an onscreen credit, I can o...Judging by the lack of an onscreen credit, I can only assume Ellison never heard about Dr Who's <i>Day of the Daleks</i> storyline, which also had elements reminiscent of that Ellison story.Steve W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09191442559702617745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-27125965038351382932016-11-19T13:45:52.811+00:002016-11-19T13:45:52.811+00:00So far as I can remember, Steve, the credits for A...So far as I can remember, Steve, the credits for Avengers 101 says it was based on a plot from Ellison, but its vague on any details. <br />Its not unheard of for comic stories to seem, shall we say strangely familiar, and I wonder if that credit wasn't simply added to avoid possible problems. Not unlike the ones which later accompanied Hulk 286, which despite the lack of a credit turned out to be based on an old Ellison tv script after he complained.<br />The same one Terminator was nicked from.<br /><br />-sean<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-86104953198903673742016-11-19T10:53:22.665+00:002016-11-19T10:53:22.665+00:00I agree: Claremont must've had some terrible e...I agree: Claremont must've had some terrible experience at an airport. iron Fist and X-Men 97 also come to mind. In fact, there are at least three or four exploding planes - and a hovercraft and a space shuttle - in the first Claremont/Cockrum era.Dougiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03965448821892833703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-56061699788844942192016-11-18T19:32:14.750+00:002016-11-18T19:32:14.750+00:00TC, I think you may well be right about the Captai...TC, I think you may well be right about the Captain America story.<br /><br />I also think you might be right about the Avengers story. I seem to remember that it was devised by a well-known science fiction writer, so Harlan Ellison may very well have been the individual concerned.Steve W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09191442559702617745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-82944400536593943662016-11-18T19:16:08.705+00:002016-11-18T19:16:08.705+00:00Could "Captain America No More" be from ...Could "Captain America No More" be from Tales of Suspense #95 (1967)? That was the one where he decided to retire from super heroics. He unmasked, and publicly revealed his identity. Of course, it didn't last. Later, during the Steranko run, he un-exposed his secret identity by dumping a Steve Rogers dummy into the river or something. <br /><br />And, was that Avengers story written by Harlan Ellison? Or adapted from an Ellison story? The guy was going to kill five innocent people to prevent their descendants from starting WWIII? It turned out the Watcher was manipulating the situation to get the Avengers to stop him. <br /><br />The Watcher was as bad as Captain Kirk about violating the non-interference rule. TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13686814973788356726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-47009837985461246342016-11-18T08:35:32.233+00:002016-11-18T08:35:32.233+00:00Colin, they didn't let Alfredo Alcala do Battl...Colin, they didn't let Alfredo Alcala do <i>Battle</i>? I only conclude that whoever made that decision was hopelessly insane.<br /><br />DW, sadly, I never owned the conclusion to the Hurricane saga and so don't know what he looked like without his armour.Steve W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09191442559702617745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-1283477545430741442016-11-18T00:24:15.977+00:002016-11-18T00:24:15.977+00:00I think the Steranko Captain America didn't f...I think the Steranko Captain America didn't features until after the Spiderman/Titans merge. I was sure I bought POTA until its own merge with MWOM but I haven't recognised the the covers for weeks. In fact I can't recall the Battle adaptation at all. Didn't the Hurricane turn out to be far less threatening when we see him outside of his armour. A bit like Rorshach<br /><br />DWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-22860937081828232932016-11-17T23:44:45.188+00:002016-11-17T23:44:45.188+00:00"I'm assuming we're still being given..."I'm assuming we're still being given Battle For The Planet of The Apes" - Steve, the adaptation only started last week so you assume correctly !! But Alfredo Alcala was the artist on the adaptations of "Beneath" and "Conquest", not "Battle".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com