And you The Public have decided that DC's Swamp Thing is better than Marvel's not at all similar Man-Thing - with Swampy winning by fourteen votes to nine. As you wouldn't expect for such an un-nimble character, Man-Thing got off to a racing start but, slowly, Swamp Thing caught up with him and overtook him.
Having only read one issue of Swamp Thing but numerous issues of Mike Ploog's Man-Thing, I can't deny that when it comes to scientists turned into mud monsters after jumping into a swamp when their work on a secret formula was sabotaged, I have a bias in favour of Ted Sallis' carrot nosed alter-ego and am therefore disappointed not to see him triumph.
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Of course, all true lovers of things that go glump in the night know the pair of them'd be flattened by the Glob from the old Hulk comics.
But clearly that's a poll for another day.
I voted for Manny! Steve Gerber, after all.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, wasn't Man Thing before Swamp Thing, although both were after The Heap?
I'm stating this from memory - so if anyone wants to correct me, they're free to do so - but I think Man-Thing made his début in May 1971 and Swamp Thing made his début two months later.
ReplyDeleteThe Heap was revived by Skywald in something like January 1971, although there'd been an earlier version way back in something like the 1940s.
The Glob, of course, pre-dated both Man-Thing and Swamp Thing by something like two years.
I used far too many somethings in that reply. :(
ReplyDeleteYou are right. Man-Thing first appeared in Savage Tales #1 (May 1971) and Swamp Thing debuted in House of Secrets # 92 (July 1971). Marvel may have considered a lawsuit, but never went through with it. Both characters were suspiciously similar to the Heap, who premiered in 1942. And the X-Men started a few months after the Doom Patrol, and the Red Tornado and the Vision appeared at almost the same time. The comics publishing business is full of stranger-than-fiction coincidences.
ReplyDeleteAmusingly, the writers for the first Man-Thing & Swamp Thing stories, Gerry Conway & Len Wein, respectively, were roommates at the time, and even odder, Len Wein wound up writing the 2nd Man-Thing story, apparently before returning to DC and the first Swamp Thing series. In the '70s, I only read the Man-Thing series, only latching onto Wein & Wrightson's work through reprints and backissue shops in the '80s. Both series were great.
ReplyDeleteWhat I hated about Man-Thing,was Ted Sallis wasn't even a character.He's introduced and thrown away.Swamp-Thing was or least,thought he was Alec Holland.Man-Thing,was more or less a pile of garbage reacting to fear and things.I remember,poor Ted should once or twice in that Team Up Thing and maybe other pllaces,but you got to wonder,this car crashed into the swamp.Bingo,he's gone and then pops again.The rest of the time.he's walking pile of crap.
ReplyDeleteSwamp Thing,even a plant man like the Thing movie,was a character.Maybe that's why,plus the art and writting people responded more to him,than the other guy.
Man-Thing was rather unique among comics monsters with a dual identity in an ongoing series in that appearances by Manny's alter ego were very few and far between in his series. Given that Manny was incapable of coherent thought, readers were thus spared monthly agonizing by the creature or his alter ego over his condition, as in most other man transformed into monster comics characters, from Ben Grimm/Thing, Bruce Banner/Hulk, Alec Holland/Swamp Thing, Jack Russell/Werewolf By Night, Morbius, etc. Of course, with Swampy, Allan Moore cured him of his moaning of his affliction in one of comicdoms greatest retcons, revealing that SWamp Thing had never been Alec Holland at all but had always been a swamp creature into whom the memories of the dying scientist had been transferred.
ReplyDeleteFred, I had no idea Moore had done that. Thanks for the enlightenment. :)
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