There's no one quite like Grandma.
I know that because a nightmarish gang of children waylaid me and told me so.
Then they kept on telling me, over and over again, for three nightmarish minutes until I could never hope to forget.
When did they tell me this?
1980.
That's right, it was forty years ago this week that St Winifred's School Choir secured the coveted UK Christmas Number One, by seeing-off various John Lennon songs, with their paean to grandmothers everywhere.
Clearly, music lovers were going to have to take refuge in the UK album chart instead.
Over there, things were far safer, as ABBA's Super Trouper retained the top spot it had been hogging for months; again, doing so by seeing off the challenge of John Lennon.
ITV, meanwhile, was in the process of seeing-off the challenge of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer whose animated special they aired for the final time until its return to their shores in 2020. Forty years without showing a Christmas classic? Are these people barbarians?
But, hold on a minute. What's that I said? "Christmas?" But doesn't that mean there must be annuals?
All I know about this one is it costs £1.95 and has Spider-Man in it.
I'm assuming, from the cover, the Green Goblin's also there.
And, looking at that cover, I wonder if it's the Harry Osborn drug story in which Gobby deprives our hero of his power to cling to walls?
I do believe this one reprints Marvel's adaptation of the movie. Which will, I'm sure, be a Christmas morning thrill for anyone who's not already encountered it in the regular mag.
The Fantastic Four haven't been able to carry a Marvel UK mag in years but, every Yuletide, they still get their own annual.
This time, they give us a reprint of the team's first-ever meeting with the X-Men - the one in which the Puppet Master and Mad Thinker team-up to perplex both teams and trick them into fighting each other.
It also features the FF vs Madrox the Multiple Man, from back in the days when Medusa was a member.
As if that wasn't enough, we also get a text story that involves the FF venturing into space to carry out a rescue mission of someone or other.
Perhaps most intriguingly, the book features an inner-cover splash page of the Avengers facing up to a decidedly Cosmic-looking Red Skull, as drawn by Gene Colan, which is an image I've never seen before and am hard-pressed to guess for which occasion it would have been created.
In this one, we're given the X-Men's very earliest appearance, the one in which they have to thwart Magneto's attempts to lay hands on America's nuclear missiles.
Ms Marvel teams-up with the Vision to prevent radioactive cargo from doing radioactive-cargo-type stuff, though why people in the Marvel universe fear radiation, when all it ever seems to do is give them super-powers, I've no idea.
We also get that story in which the statue of the Black Knight, from the Defenders, shows up at the Avengers Mansion and starts fighting the residents. Exactly why it does that, I can't recall.
The Hulk may have to share his weekly book with Spider-Man but that doesn't stop him getting his own annual.
Sadly, from that cover, it clear it's the adventures of the TV incarnation we're being treated to, rather than his comic book equivalent.
It's the big one. Electro, a man who's never managed to beat either Spider-Man or Daredevil, decides it's a great idea to try and fight them both at once.
I think I can see a flaw in his thinking
Having said that, this time, he does have Blizzard on his side...
As if that weren't enough on the webster's plate; in solo action, he's having trouble with Belladonna's attempt to gas him and the new Prowler to death.
It looks like ROM's still battling the nightmare menace of Serpentyne.
And, if the cover's to be believed, someone else has to endure the horror of the thing on the roof.
At this time of year, it's probably Rudolph. You don't mess with Rudolph.
This is the second mention of Rudolph in this post. You can tell it's that time of the year again.
The crew of the Enterprise are having their first encounter with the big thing in space that used to be a Voyager probe. You guessed it; Marvel's adaptation of the slow-motion picture is rolling right along.
The Micronauts are still battling to prevent Plantman from taking over a flower shop.
Seriously.
There's a strange strip about an astronaut who finds himself on a John Carter type world where no one seems to have a warm welcome for him.
To wrap it all up, Adam Warlock's finally remembered who he is and decides to teach Rhodan the super-rat a valuable lesson.
There's a giant, in a triceratops hat, blundering around the prehistoric realm, looking for dinosaurs to chin.
Obviously, this is a job for Devil Dinosaur.
In a slightly later epoch, Conan's still trying to defeat a nearby tribe of vampires.
In a much more modern epoch, Dr Strange is on an even stranger world and finally reunited with Clea. But will either of them live long enough to celebrate?
King Arthur finally sees through the mystery knight who's staying in his castle, and orders him to leave. However, the knight responds by kidnapping Guinevere.
I'm very proud of myself that I managed to spell Guinevere right without having to Google it.
And, last but not least, this week's tale of Asgard sees Heimdall in sensational solo action, as he manages to fail to spot a fairy sneaking into the mystical realm. Will Odin forgive him?
Judging by all the strips it contains, this is a packed comic.
But what it's packed with, I couldn't say, other than it seems Ant-Man's now also being crammed into its pages. Just how many super-heroes can you fit into one book? It looks like we're about to find out.
Anyway, as mentioned earlier, it's a certain magical time of year, and a certain magical night, that makes me want to put on those Slade and Wizzard classics and sing along with them until I'm dizzy.
So, I shall wish you a merry Christmas or whatever festival or holiday it is that you do or don't celebrate, and I hope that, whatever it is, you have a good one.
'Forces in Combat' # 33, 'Spider-man & Hulk Weekly' # 407, 'Team-up' # 15
ReplyDeleteCommon themes? Backstabbers! No - not that song by the O.J.'s! Serpentyne waits until ROM's back is turned, then slashes him with a tiny little sword! Likewise, in Spider-man, the new Prowler tries shooting Spidey in the back, with his wrist darts, despite Spidey having saved his life! Thirdly, in Team-up, the Witch Queen of New Orleans takes Dr.Strange to the astral plane, away from Spidey & Ms.Marvel, then betrays him by smashing 'the mirror of life'! More backstabbing - what a heady mix!
Other common themes? Villainous lion men! In Team-up's FF tale, Brutacus is the Salem Seven's evil lion man, whilst in Spider-man & Hulk Weekly, Woodgod's Changelings are challenged by their own evil lion man, Leoninus. Much earlier, I remember the Avengers fought a lion god, too. What does Marvel have against lions?
To be serious. The cover of 'Forces in Combat' is another Michael Golden one, once again reminding us that the end of 1980 is ushering us in a new dawn of barely familiar Marvel artists.
In ROM, the eponymous Space knight stumbles into Serpentyne's trophy room, where he encounters Serpentyne himself. Serpentyne relates his origin, confirming the fact he's one of those giant lizards Ms.Marvel met in the Midwest. In fact, he's the sole survivor, as when the human hostages Ms.Marvel freed were hypnotized, so as not to reveal the Lizards' hideout, one was a Dire Wraith in disguise. He resisted the the mind-wipe, and brought his Dire Waiths pals, who set the Dogs of the Dire Wraiths on the giant lizards, and as if that wasn't bad enough, as the finishing touch, the Wraiths unleashed Death Wing on the poor green guys!
Serpentyne was lucky to escape with his life, but now has only one eye, putting him in the same league as Odin, Nick Fury, Gabriel the demon-hunter, the Orb, Lord I (in Morbius), and many other one-eyed luminaries. Despite their common enemy, Serpentyne attacks ROM from behind, claiming he alone must have victory over the Dire Wraiths (similar to Drax's attitude towards Mar-vell over Thanos.)
In Kull, once again, the hooded ones summon a giant pair of eyes to attack Ridondo, the minstrel (he's now in the dungeon.) Incidentally, Dormammu summoned a giant pair of eyes to steal the goblets, in the Avengers/Defenders clash - but I digress... Anyway, Kull & the mystery girl hear Ridondo's scream & head for the dungeons. Kull kills the mace on a chain (morning star?) armed jailer, and they enter to find a giant serpent - not a pair of eyes?
ReplyDeleteYou've heard of death by cop? Well, in Machine Man Ion, the gaseous female (you like that, Steve?), is trying death by superhero. She's tried Machine Man, but the FF couldn't kill her either. Machine Man trips the Thing up, and flees out of the Baxter Building's window - that place really needs a security system that works! Machine Man lures Ion into a meat market's freezer room, the cold temperatures of which transform her back into a human being. Considering Ion was the greatest female scientist in the world, why couldn't she have figured this out for herself?
In Fury, the Howlers abduct the greatest Nazi strategist from his castle's highest tower, using a pulley/zip line, whilst Fury defends the rear - what self-sacrifice! Apart from 'jawohl' & 'achtung', another German word Fury stories taught thousands of kids was 'dummkopf' - it's here aplenty! Really set up a foundation for 'O'-level German - not! Anyway, Fury beats back the nazis, and jumps off the castle's highest tower, onto a convenient nazi motorbike driving below. Fury must have adamantium bones! Fury knocks off the driver, and reaches a heavily defended bridge over a wide gully (because Germany has lots of those). Fury decides to cross the gully, Evel Knievel style, whilst balancing on the bike's seat, like it's a surf board! For this - cliffhanger - you must wait until next week!Chamber of Horrors has a credits box - probably because it's placed where the editors can't remove it. The story's by Roy Thomas & Frank Brunner, taken from a Robert E. Howard tale. The writer & artist haven't been communicating, as the protagonist visits an old mansion, which he describes as being like a 'feudal castle', yet it's got a portico with classical columns! The protagonist's mate, who owns the mansion, has brought back a frog monster from some South American temple. Nothing makes sense and, basically, the story's garbage!
In 'Team-up' #15, the FF, who lose against Salem's Seven, nevertheless beat Nicholas Scratch as Agatha Harkness & Gabriel the demon-hunter unleash 'the power of love' (Huey Lewis or Frankie?) - the FF's love for Franklin - a plan with requires Agatha Harkness to die. Nicholas Scratch can't lose his old mum, so surrenders, whereupon she disowns him & strips him of his powers.
ReplyDeleteIn Spidey's team-up, the Witch Queen of'The Big Easy' separates Dr.Strange from Spidey & Ms.Marvel (whose new costume has endowed with a sense of humour), setting a pirate & ninja death squad on the unfortunate pair, whilst Dr.Strange is shattered on the astral plane. I hope Silver Dagger turns up fast, because this story is making no sense whatsoever!
In Ms.Marvel's own story, Carol is having a bar-room brawl with some thugs, but Ms.Marvel's persona has taken over! She calls the thugs 'Calot-spawn'. Do the Kree originate from Edgar Rice Burroughs' Barsoom? Ms.Marvel's action/fights quota was greater than any other comic, but this scene looked much better in colour (Jim Mooney's art always does.) Next week it's round 2 against Grotesk, and it's a good one. But, at the end of this week's page count, Ms.Marvel's wearing that scarf that Grotesk will use against her, meaning Carol's work's cut out for her, next issue!
In Morbius, Lord I tells Morbius that, despite their advanced evolution, his people have lost their instinct for self-preservation. Morbius tests the veracity of Lord I's statement by biting and draining the blood of girl dressed half-like Black Canary. She doesn't resist, and her pals don't defend her. For some reason, the story calls a bio-stasis tank an 'incuflask' - a rose by any other name!
In Showcase, it's Scott Lang as the Byrne & Layton Ant-man. Basically, it's an origin story, in which Lang must master his new powers & save his daughter.
In 'Spider-man & Hulk Weekly' # 407, Leoninus poisons a young centaur, and uses it to drive a wedge between the Changelings & Woodgod. Fred tries to sweet-talk the Changeling's green woman, Siren, to get her on the humans' side. Unfortunately, he doesn't have Captain Kirk's knack with green women, and she chooses the Changelings' side instead! Nevertheless, Siren figures out Leoninus poisoned the young Centaur, and flies off to get the Hulk. Unfortunately, jade-jaws is busy fighting Doc Samson!
ReplyDeleteIn Daredevil & Spidey's battle against Electro & Blizzard, high comedy abounds in this crazy romp. Also, the writer understands dramatic irony (when the audience knows more than the characters). Here's an example:
Electro: "Maybe this is to our advantage! Daredevil's eyes won't be used to the sudden light when he rushes in after us!"
This kind of writing is hardly top-drawer, guys! As for the art, Sal seems interested in the Blizzard, doing a good job. But DD & Spidey are poor, with their legs too small for their bodies, in some panels. For Sal, a different inker would have helped, too.
The Spidey story with Belladonna & the new Prowler still has Marie Severin & Bruce Patterson's interesting interpretation. But Spidey smashes the gas-filled room's reinforced glass portal with a drop-kick. This simply wouldn't work! A major event in the history of Spider-man transpires! Peter Parker's giant teddy catches fire, & Peter throws it out! Does this symbolize a transition to adult life? Doubtful! Debra Whitman witnessed this world shattering event, so maybe it was for her benefit!
In She-Hulk, Jen Walters gives the 500 year old Hacienda gang a Kirk-style anti-utopian speech, and they smash the fountain of youth. Jen goes in search of Richard Rory, whereupon the Man-thing grabs her, and she transforms into She-Hulk! Next week - the fight!
As regards the Marvel annuals - that Marvel Superheroes annual was a good one. But I've said enough for now.
Charlie - this is a 'color commentary' (American spelling) on black & white comics!
Phillip
Oh - I forgot to say - Merry Christmas lads!
ReplyDeletePhillip
And a Merry Christmas/Hannukah/Saturnalia/Winterval/whatever to you too, and the rest of the SteveDoesComics Massive.
ReplyDeleteAre you sure about that Marvel Superheroes annual, Phillip? I can't help but think that to readers of the monthly used to the Adams-era X-Men, the late 70s Byrne/Perez Avengers and (hey, I have a soft spot for 'em) the Champions it must have seemed quite underwhelming.
Admittedly I'm not familiar with the Ms Marvel/Vision story, but I have a hard time imagining it being good enough to make up for that (I think) Paul Neary cover, the first X-Men appearance and that Black Knight statue story.
Steve, didn't you do a whole post on that Avengers issue about the statue? Kinda surprised you didn't link to it, but its nice to know you think of us as more than just a source of clicks.
Inevitably my fave singalong Christmas hit is now the catchy "Boris Johnson is a ******* ****". The bookies seem to theres a fairly good chance it could be no. 1 tomorrow...
-sean
Sean, I did indeed review that Avengers/statue story, although I must confess to having, until now, totally forgotten I ever did it. For those interested, here it is: https://stevedoescomics.blogspot.com/2017/03/avengers-157-not-quite-so-dark-knight.html
ReplyDeletePhillip, thanks for that mammoth summary of the week's super-heroic events. You've definitely earned a mountain of presents from Santa this year.
I had that Spider-Man annual and surprisingly the Goblin doesn't appear in either of the stories reprinted in it. I think one of them is Lightmaster attempting to reveal Spidey's identify on TV only to unmask the White Tiger and the other is a Scorpion appearance. The Goblin only shoes up in one of those 7 or 8 page text stories that used to pad out the annuals. If my memory serves after 40 years I think Spidey actually asks who is wearing the mask this time.
ReplyDeleteBest wishes for Christmas and thank you for your efforts with this blog. I love it.
Sean - the Grand(d?)reams Annuals 1978, 1979 & 1980, to young readers, seemed luxury items. Each story's frontispiece (?) had a bit of text & a picture, introducing the title, before the story actually began. To young readers, each tale seemed handpicked, rather than thrown together at random - whether this was true or not.
ReplyDeleteNothing - I repeat nothing - at the time equalled Jim Shooter's first run on the Avengers, so you're setting the bar impossibly high.
The first two Marvel Superheroes Annuals stuck to one formula - Silver Surfer, Thor & Namor (each with a frontispiece?/introduction). This one tried something different - maybe not quite as good, but it still gave me plenty of enjoyment unwrapping it under the Christmas tree, back in the day. Interestingly, the annual's title is subtly different from the previously two...
Sean - the objectivity with which you view comics etc of this time (lack of rose-tinted spectacles)may be because you were older when you read them. M.P. is nearer my age, and likes more of the same titles.
Phillip
Thanks, Unknown, and thanks for reading the blog, as well as providing that info about the Spidey annual. :)
ReplyDeleteFor all who may be interested, my first UK annual was 1972's Marvel book. It felt a bit of a swizz at the time, as most of its stories had appeared in Mighty World of Marvel, just a few weeks earlier but, in retrospect, it was a glorious package of Silver-Age heroics (and random Conan-ness). And, of course, it had that cover showing the Hulk waving the cannon around.
The thing that jumps out at me in the weeklies is that even though Marvel TeamUp is being reprinted every week 8n TeamUp magazine, a MarvelTeamUp story is also reprinted in Spider-Man And Hulk magazine. It's all so haphazard and nobody at Marvel U.K. seems to care at this point, having shifted their market from the teens that were invested in these characters to the 7-9 year olds who might be bought a Marvel comic one week, Warlord the next week and Roy Of The Rivers the week after that.
ReplyDeleteHappy Christmas everyone, Even Dez, Frank R******s and the Ciobra.
Roy of the Rivers? Float on dangermash, float on (;
ReplyDeletePhillip, I expect having a few years on you does impact on my views here, but in my defence I'm quite capable of being fairly dismissive about comics from the early to mid-70s that I wouldn't necessarily have had much of a problem with at the time.
Marvel UK annuals generally seemed to be pretty random collections of fairly unremarkable stories though, which was annoying even when I was a kid. As annuals were hardback books it would have made more sense to take advantage of the format to reprint better stuff.
Like, seeing as Warlock was in Future Tense and the Starlin run had (then) recently been in Star Wars Weekly, why not use the stories from the US Avengers Annual #7 and Two-In-One Annual #2 for Marvel Superheroes? That would have made for a really memorable book.
-sean
Much Yuletide joy to everyone at Steve Does Comics :)
ReplyDeleteSean, I hadn't heard of "Boris Johnson is a ******* ****" and I didn't know what ******* **** stood for...
...so I just googled borisjohnsonsong. Those are very naughty lyrics! I hope it's on YouTube :D
On the subject of annuals - even though I was a huge Marvel fan I rarely bought any of the Marvel UK annuals. I preferred annuals such as Dr. Who, Star Trek and Space: 1999. I also bought the Beano, Beezer and Topper annuals even though I'd stopped reading those comics when I discovered Marvel in 1974.
ReplyDeleteI've just listened to "Boris Johnson is a F****** C***" on YouTube. Surely it is destined to become a timeless classic.
ReplyDeleteI eagerly await the Cliff Richard cover version!
For an in depth critique its pretty catchy Colin. Seems its currently in the top 10...
ReplyDeleteThe only annual I got in 1980 was the first Judge Dredd one. Brian Bolland cover, stories by John Wagner with full colour artwork by the mighty Mike McMahon. Classic stuff.
-sean
Dammit Phil! I was gonna say "Merry Christmas lads" in a probably vain attempt to seem cool around you guys from the U.K. You screwed it up!
ReplyDeleteAh, well, I stand by the sentiment anyway. Merry Christmas or happy holidays to all! And particularly to you, Steve, our ever patient master of ceremonies.
Good riddance to a truly horrific year. Let's all put this one behind us, eh?
Cheers!
M.P.
Another interesting peek at those exotic (to me, anyway) UK Annuals. Thanks for all the background, Philip. And thanks, Steve, for all your efforts!
ReplyDeleteHaven't heard that Boris Johnson song, but it sounds as if it might be applicable to a certain soon-to-be ex-resident of the White House.
Ah, but more importantly,
Warmest Holiday Wishes to all at Steve Does Comics!
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ReplyDeleteSDC - Thanks for another great year of mirth, musings, and masterful MC'ing.
ReplyDelete(Just curious - Have you ever done a review of the DC Thomson Xmas Annuals?)
Merry Christmas Wonderful Holidays All!
Sean - Marvel UK annuals were a quality product, printed on high quality paper, with sharp, vivid colours. Marvel UK's 1978 Avengers annual had the Wasp's wedding to Yellowjacket - to me, at the time, this Avengers story was one of the best I'd read, prior to Gerry Conway, & Jim Shooter's first run. Years later, I read a Marvel Super Action reprint of this same story, and it wasn't a patch on the UK Annual version - the colours weren't as sharp or vivid.
ReplyDeleteAs regards optimum material for annuals, your suggestion is interesting. However, for annuals you must not only - as you stressed - avoid reprinting recent past storylines, but also avoid pre-empting storylines which are soon to appear. If Marvel UK did a 1980 annual based on the Thanos storyline, it would steal the thunder of Rampage Monthly, which featured this selfsame story in 1981. However, it's perhaps overcrediting Marvel UK with strategic forethought, to think Rampage Monthly's stories were always planned 4 or 5 issues ahead of time!
I, too, have considered assembling Marvel UK's perfect annual, based on collecting 3 of my favourite stories. However, it doesn't work! Most of my favourites - e.g. Jim Shooter's Avengers, inked with Pablo Marcos's rich tones, or the early Sal & Ernie Chan inked Hulk, both look much better in black & white. Same with Moonknight, inked by Bob McLeod. Likewise, Adam Warlock's Magus storyline, with its use of shadows.
Some artists (& inkers), in contrast, always look better in colour. These are best for UK Marvel annuals. John Buscema's superhero stuff always looked better in colour, than in black & white (with the very important exception of Captain America # 217 - Marcos inks). Herb Trimpe always looked better in colour, as did Jim Mooney. George Tuska usually did, too. As regards inkers, Klaus Janson suited colour, as did Sinnott (more than black & white). Joe Staton suited both.
Long running story arcs don't work for UK Marvel annuals, either - so that rules out the Dark Phoenix saga.
In other words, your options are limited!
Sean - as regards your purchase of the 1980 Judge Dredd annual - are you honestly telling me you didn't buy 1980's 2000AD annual?
As regards the Bo Jo single, it's incredible how music can encapsulate a truth universally acknowledged by all.
Hope everyone's been for a walk, and had a mince pie!
Redartz & M.P. - thanks for the kind words!
Phillip
Charlie, I've never reviewed a whole DC Thomson annual but I have reviewed Billy the Cat and Katie, and a Johnny Hawke tale, from an early 1970s Beano annual. Those reviews can be found right here:
ReplyDeletehttps://stevedoescomics.blogspot.com/search/label/Billy%20the%20Cat%20and%20Katie
https://stevedoescomics.blogspot.com/search/label/Johnny%20Hawke
Yes Phillip, I am telling you I didn't get that 2000AD annual.
ReplyDeleteMy brother did.
(Thats how we did things as kids, to read comics with limited funds. I bought the Sienkiewicz Moon Knights while it was up to him to get Miller's Daredevil regularly. Missing an issue entailed severe reprisals. For him - fortunately I'm the older one).
Yes, I know those Thanos annuals appeared in the Marvel Superheroes and Rampage monthlies, but thats hardly a reason for not using them in an annual (even with more strategic editorial planning, its not like they HAD to appear at that specific point in the monthly continuity).
And anyway, it was just an example. Wasn't it the next year Marvel UK did the annual with the Steranko Caps? Or maybe it was '82... Either way, its a shame they didn't start doing stuff like that earlier.
-sean
Sad to report that "Boris Johnson is a ******* ****" is not #1 today.
ReplyDeleteIt did make the top 5, but it would appear the British public prefer to mark the first cancellation of Christmas since the Cromwell dictatorship with sausage rolls, Mariah Carey, and Wham.
-sean
Sean - it was exactly the same with my brother & myself, too. Each bought half & read the other's. I was pulling your leg about 2000AD!
ReplyDeleteI can't pass comment about 1982 as, by then, I'd drifted away from comics - unless there's the odd exception I've forgotten about.
The safe option for UK Marvel annuals was origin stories - that's probably why they figured prominently!
Phillip
Sean, the new Ladbaby #1 is raising funds for the Trussell Trust, a foodbank charity, so it's a worthy Christmas #1 surely!
ReplyDeleteAt least the Christmas #1 isn't called "Boris Is A Splendid Chap And Brexit Is Fab" or something similar!
You're quite right Colin. it did occur to me a later that even though they're a bit annoying Ladbaby are doing something useful, and it was unfair to lump them in with the other two, so thank for pointing that.
ReplyDeleteAlthough personally I think it was rigged (I hear theres a lot of it about these days - and the Boris Johnson song won.
! This claim about Christmas #1 fraud is disputed
-sean
*thanks for pointing that out.
ReplyDeleteDuh. (Hey, its late on Xmas day, so I'm a bit out of it)
-sean
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ReplyDeleteI'm late to the party but merry Christmas Steve, and all, and thanks again for your efforts with this blog.
ReplyDeleteCheers
DW
Thanks DW. :)
ReplyDeleteHope you all had a Merry Christmas, oh my brothers.
ReplyDeleteSteve, you mentioned a Tales of Asgard story (which I think I vaguely remember) in which a fairy slips past Heimdall and sneaks into the Realm Eternal.
ReplyDeleteThere's a joke there somewhere, but for once I'm going to employ some restraint.
You also mentioned the Hulk T.V. show. I was nine when that came out, and I was freaking out about it. Then I watched it and I got sulky, thinking "this ain't the comic book Hulk. What a gyp."
I was right, but I grudgingly kept watching it (what else was I gonna watch, the Love Boat?) and it grew on me. I was moved by the pathos. And that ending theme with Banner thumbing it on the side of the road...wow.
What do you guys think about that show? I assume you guys in the U.K. saw it at some point.
M.P.
Well, I wouldn't use a term like "gyp" M.P. but you're right, it did seem like a bit of a fraud. Although at least it was better than the late 70s tv Spidey, Cap or Dr Strange (admittedly not much of an achievement).
ReplyDeleteStill, good on the producers for including Jack Kirby.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ0Ge839jC4
(Just search "Hulk Kirby cameo" M.P., that should do it)
-sean
Hulk, Wonder Woman, Shazam / Cpt Marvel Friday night / Saturday morning...
ReplyDeleteSuper Man (1950s), Batman (1960s), Marvel Cartoon (1966) in syndication during the day...
(Am I missing anything? Sean - I have zero recall of those shows you mention, lol.)
What a great decade to be alive!
Anyone hear anything about Wonder Woman 84?
You haven't seen the late 70s Captain America? Christopher Lee was in it! Not his finest moment on screen, but he does make it a bit more watchable (only a bit).
ReplyDeleteWonder Woman 84 does sound like it might be worth seeing, but then don't they all (until you actually do see them)?
At least Gal Gadot is easy on the eyes. Maybe I'll risk the JLA flick on tv tomorrow evening...
-sean
What year did the Super-Friends come out? That was "must-see" viewing for me on Saturday mornings.
ReplyDeleteOn a related note, I have the entire Justice League and Justice League International series on DVD.
It cost a fair amount, like sixty-something bucks, but well worth it. There were moments of pure genius in that series.
Gorilla Grodd is hysterical. And don't get me started on their treatment of Green Arrow...
heck, you can look up a lotta that on You-tube. Check out the Solomon Grundy stuff.
M.P.
MP, Super Friends started in 1973.
ReplyDeleteThe Hulk show did feel like a total letdown at the time. I saw it again, a few years ago, and it was surprisingly good. Everyone involved seemed to take it impressively seriously.
KD, I hope you had a merry Christmas as well.