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Sunday, 4 February 2024

Fifty years ago today - February 1974.

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Follow me, Reader, as I roll up my trouser legs and paddle in the shallows of history.

Amazing Spider-Man #129, the Punisher

Everyone's favourite psychotic gunman makes his debut, as the Jackal convinces the Punisher to try and kill everyone's favourite wall-crawler.

Believing Spidey killed both Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborn, the vengeance-happy vigilante's only too willing to oblige.

Avengers #120, Zodiac

Zodiac are back - and giving the Avengers far more trouble than they should be.

I do believe this is the one in which the villains have a gun designed to kill anyone of a certain star sign. Though how it knows people's star signs is anyone's guess.

Regardless, thanks to New York's polluted skies, it has to be set up on the roof of a skyscraper where everyone, including the Avengers, can see it.

And that can only lead to a scrap.

Captain America and the Falcon #170

Is there any hope for our hero?

It would appear not, as he's accused of murdering the Tumbler and is then stopped by Moonstone, the real killer who's out to discredit America's idol.

I do believe Leila's also in sensational solo action, this month.

When I say, "action," I, of course, mean getting kidnapped and having to be rescued.

Conan the Barbarian #35, Kara-Shera

I know nothing of the contents of this one, other than that it takes place to the west of Khitai. So, would that be Japan?

Fantastic Four #143, Dr Doom

My memories of this are vague. I'm going to guess Darkoth the death demon is in it. And, possibly, the Silver Surfer. But don't quote me on any of that.

I am, however, sure Dr Doom's in it.

Incredible Hulk #172, the Juggernaut

Now the Hulkbuster Base is in trouble - because it has not one but two powerhouses to contend with!

It's true! The Hulk and Juggernaut have teamed up - and nothing can stop them!

Nothing, that is, except Professor X who shows up at the right time to thwart his ever-malevolent stepbrother.

Iron Man #66, Thor

I've never read this one but I really don't fancy Iron Man's chances.

Thor #220, Avalon

Thor and his mates face overwhelming odds when it comes to thwarting the gigantic Masters of the Black Stars.

But are things as they seem?

And are the planets they rule as full of vitality as one might think?

X-Men #86, the Blob and the Vanisher

I do believe there are just eight issues to go before the New X-Men make their debut!

But who needs that sort of rubbish when quality villains like the Blob and Vanisher are back?

Not only that but, rather oddly, there's a backup strip which has nothing to do with the X-Men at all and is, instead, a thriller called The Spirit of Swami River, as brought to us by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko.

Adventure Comics #431, the Spectre returns

That's Marvel's output looked at but we should never forget that, when it comes to comics, there are other fish in the sea.

And few fish come bigger than DC. Therefore, let us sample a random snatch of what that company was offering in its books which bore the cover date of February.

A moment that shall never be forgotten, for as long as humanity might survive, has reached us, as Jim Aparo and Michael Fleisher revive the company's very own dead detective when the Spectre returns from wherever he's been, to wreak havoc upon the criminals of the world.

if I remember correctly, in this tale, he melts one villain and reduces another to a skeleton. Is it any wonder I loved this strip, as a lad?

But that's not all we get. After all, we're also provided with a backup tale which asks the ever-pertinent question, "Is a Snerl Human?"

Batman #254, Man-Bat is back

If there's anything I've never been able to say no to it's 100 pages of Batman action.

Therefore, I'm going to say nothing but yes as we get the senses-shattering return of Man-Bat in the first story I ever read that features him.

It all happens when a spate of robberies spurs the mixed-up scientist to abandon retirement and tackle the miscreants.

Following that tale, Batman and Robin must track down The Witch, a mysterious figure to blame for the murder of Erik Dorne and the theft of his manuscript.

Then, a private detective attempts to join the prestigious Bullet Hole Club - even if he has to get himself shot to do it.

After that, a new villain announces his presence by stealing the Batmobile, Bat-a-Rang and Bat-Boat. But why would anyone do such a thing?

Next, Luke Graham needs Robin to help prove his paper about the Chinese iron industry wasn't plagiarised.

Now, in an imaginary tale by Alfred, the second Batman and Robin must battle the Son of the Joker.

And, finally, a veteran of Gotham City Police Department has his day made when the caped crusader suggests he be put in charge of the Bat-Signal.

Secret Origins #6, Legion of Super-Heroes, Blackhawk

It's a vital issue for all true lovers of DC comics, as we're treated to the awesome origin of the Legion of Super-Heroes.

I don't remember too much about it but, apparently, three super-youths rescue billionaire R J Brande who promptly bankrolls them in the formation of a brand new crime-fighting team the universe will never see the likes of again.

I have even less recall of the origin of Blackhawk and, to be honest, I don't even have that much recall of the character himself.

However, if the Grand Comics Database is to be believed, it all takes place in Poland and involves Nazis.

Superboy #200, The Legionnaire Bride of Starfinger

Superboy's mag hits its 200th issue. And does so in style, as the now powerless Bouncing Boy and the distinctly under-powered Duo Damsel decide to marry.

But, before you can even utter the words, "Holy gatecrashers!" that foul fiend Starfinger appears and abducts her! 

If I remember right, it was a dispute about ownership of a splash page in this issue which led to Dave Cockrum quitting the strip and defecting to The X-Men.

Superman #272, 100 pages, Circe

Superman gets the 100 pages that such a legend deserves - and does so with a special that carries a theme of magic.

In our first tale, unalloyed annoyance erupts when Mr Mxyztplk returns. I think we can all guess just how the man of steel dispatches that particular nuisance.

Next, Supes and Jimmy Olsen must contend with The Demons from Pandora's Box!

After that, our hero attends The Magicians' Convention! where he must get to the heart of a prestidigitational crime.

Following that, we're presented with The Other Side of the World! in which Zatanna and the Green Lantern venture to the land of Ys where a warlock may hold the key to Zatara's fate!

That's followed by The Enchanted Mountain! a tale of which I can claim to possess no recollection.

And we conclude the book with a yarn the world knows as Beauty and the Super-Beast! in which Kal-El stands helpless before the sorcerous might of Circe and her ability to turn men into beasts.

Or does he? I'm fairly certain the "witch" turns out to be Saturn Girl and she's doing it all with the aid of her shape-shifting pet Proteus in a plot to fool Lois Lane.

Or, possibly, the Superman Revenge Squad.

Or perhaps someone else.

35 comments:

  1. None are more zealous than the newly converted. These all appeared on the spinner racks in my earliest days of being an Obsessive Comic Book Nerd, thus my opinions of them are obviously colored by intense nostalgia.

    As we discussed a few weeks ago, the previous issue of Thor had an incredibly suspenseful build-up, threatening a genuinely apocalyptic cosmic catastrophe… which ultimately concluded with a gob-smacking anti-climax. Even as a newly minted Comics Nerd, I started noticing signs that Gerry Conway had probably bitten off way more than he could chew with this issue. I still enjoyed the issue, mind you, but at some point I realized that the stakes had been lowered dramatically and we weren’t going to get the mind-bending sci-fi extravaganza we’d been promised. Instead, we’d have to settle for watching Thor and his rag-tag crew fighting androids and some over-sized One Percenters. Imagine if Neal Adams’ epic SUPERMAN Vs. MUHAMMAD ALI had ended with Superman and Ali having a friendly game of badminton, that’s the level of Cosmic Cop-out we’re talking here.

    My big takeaway from this issue of Iron Man was that my enjoyment of George Tuska’s art was more than usually dependent on who was inking his pencils. Sure, you can say the same about most artists but with Tuska, it was really obvious. At this point I think I owned two issues of HERO FOR HIRE and the art by Tuska and Billy Graham was breathtaking. Tuska inked by Mike Esposito was a whole ‘nother story. Tuska’s layouts and figure drawings were still lively and dynamic but Esposito’s crude meat-and-potatoes inks looked bland and somehow unfinished. I continued buying IRON MAN regularly for the next few years but it was never one of my favorite Marvel titles.

    (My last reply in the previous thread might give the impression that I dislke Tuska’s art in general, which is not really the case. When paired with a sympathetic inker, his artwork could be very fun to look at — when inked by Graham, Dave Hunt, Johnny Craig, Jack Abel, and even Don Perlin, his art was much more visually appealing. Also, I really liked when he inked himself on those Red Skull/ Sleeper stories in SUSPENSE. Sadly he had the misfortune to be inked by Esposito and Vince Colletta throughout much of the Bronze Age and I’m sure that’s the artwork that his detractors are thinking of when they bash him.)

    I’ll (hopefully) be back later with some thoughts on The Punisher, Captain America, The Spectre and a Snerl.

    b.t.

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  2. Sean — Contnuing our conversation from the “Marvel UK 50 Years Ago” thread :

    I’m afraid my little Thought Experiment is spiraling out of control. I appreciate your attempt to ease my anxiety but now I’m imagining Charlie going back in time like the Terminator to eliminate John Romita’s mother so he’ll never born and one day get tired of Gwen Stacy and decide to hurl her off the Brooklyn Bridge.

    b.t.

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  3. For any who might be interested, I feel I should give my checklist. Of this month's DC comics, I had:

    House of Mystery #222
    Superman #272
    The Witching Hour #39
    Justice League of America #109
    Secret Origins #6
    Lois Lane #136
    Batman #254
    Superboy #200
    Adventure Comics #431

    I had no US Marvels and I had no Charltons.

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  4. Iron Man # 66 (Iron Man vs Thor) is - unsurprisingly - a fudge.

    Thor isn't fighting Iron Man per se, but a Skrull, from out of Dr.Spectrum's power prism, who's possessing Tony Stark.

    Plus, there's all kinds of 'switcheroonies' played on the reader!

    When Thor defeats the Skrull/Iron Man (whom he recognizes as a fake Iron Man - sort of), he removes his helmet, revealed Tony's face (supposedly).

    Happy Hogan - despite wanting to stay with Pepper - grabs a spare suit of Iron Man's armour, to go and save Tony, from Dr.Spectrum, who's now escaped Thor (yes, I know it doesn't make sense).

    Happy Hogan despite being a big lunk, defeats Dr.Spectrum's varied attacks, knowing how to use Iron Man's thermo-couple, etc.

    At the end, the Iron Man injured on the ground is actually not Tony Stark, but Happy's old sparring partner, Eddie March, who also had a spare Iron Man suit (is there any friend of Tony's who doesn't have one?)

    So, it was Tony himself, as Iron Man, who defeated Dr.Spectrum - after having switched places with Eddie March (or something?)

    Happy Hogan actually never suited up, deciding to stay with Pepper - rather than saved his best friend Tony's life - in a truly selfless act (not!)

    How on earth is a little kid supposed to follow all that twaddle?

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    Regarding Esposito, what baffles me is (like Colletta on Thor), he was often like two different inkers. When Spidey first ecountered Lightmaster, Esposito's inking was quite polished & finished. Likewise, Spidey's first encounter with Leroy Tallon. Yet on other occasions - e.g. the Tarantula/Punisher story, Esposito's inking was scratchy & poor. Similarly with Iron Man, this one ( # 66) is poor; yet Esposito (with Tuska) is much, much better, on Iron Man # 106.

    Phillip

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  5. revealing Tony's face - Typo city, Arizona.

    Phillip

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  6. save his best friend - Typo city, Nevada.

    Phillip

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  7. Phillip, enjoy your Caramac bars!

    George Tuska was also the artist on Marvel's adaptation of PLANET OF THE APES!

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  8. Colin - To save as a collector's item, or not? So far, I've eaten the first of the three. Having tasted one, I doubt my Caramacs will survive for posterity!

    Phillip

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  9. Steve, at first I was surprised that you bought no Charltons this month. But then I checked Mike’s Amazing World for all the Charltons published that month and realized that GHOSTLY TALES 110 is the only one I own. It has a nice Tom Sutton cover and a Steve Ditko story that I don’t recognize by title. Hope I didn’t spend a lot of money on it…

    b.t,

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  10. Relax b.t. - if Skynet sent Charlie back in time I expect the plan would be to prevent Gerry Conway taking over from Stan Lee rather than Jazzy John from Sturdy Steve.

    Steve, I've never really understood why the Captain America 'Secret Empire' storyline is highly regarded, but the solo Laila action in #170 is indeed sensational. She gives the Panther and those snobby upper class Wakandan royal chicks a hard time right from the start.
    Laila Taylor would definitely have livened up 'Panther's Revenge' - Monica Lynne she ain't! - but unfortunately according to a footnote in that issue from editor 'Bwana Roy' (what?) the story was set before the then current Jungle Action series.
    Presumably to explain why Wakanda was more Kirbyish than Dauntless Don-esque.

    -sean

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  11. Interesting that Superman #272 didn't change the earlier Mr Mxyztplk to the more regular (by the 70s) Mr Mxyzptlk for the reprint. Or for that matter in the story saying 'Klptzyxm' rather than 'Kltpzyxm' to send him back to the fifth dimension.
    I don't think DC ever explained this discrepancy?
    This is maybe a difference with Marvel Comics, who would probably have got at least a whole story out of it at some point.

    The Green Lantern story in that issue is a really good one. Gil Kane drew a rather fetching Zatanna.
    It doesn't quite make up for not including a Supergirl reprint though. I mean, they could find space for that dweeb Jimmy Olsen, but not the Maid of Might...? Disappointing.

    Steve, I think I had Lois Lane #136. That's the one where Supes gets engaged to Wonder Woman, right? To draw a mad woman stalker out of hiding (or two, if you count Lois).

    -sean

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  12. Sean:
    I think the Secret Empire Saga felt like a big deal because it was unusual at the time to see a Marvel hero not named Spider-man hunted by Law Enforcement, especially shocking to see it happen to the iconic, super-virtuous red, white and blue Boy Scout. Plus it had a whopper of a climax, strongly implying that Richard Nixon blew his brains out in the Oval Office, which led to Steve Rogers becoming The Nomad for a few months, and then donning the Stars and Stripes once again after the Red Skull murdered Roscoe, the Captain America Kid. I agree that it hasn’t aged all that well, but I sure dug it as a wee sprout. As you say, the stuff with Sam and Leila in Wakanda is one of the best parts of the storyline. Regardless of Roy’s racially insensitive footnote, the Wakanda in CAP isn’t all that incongruous with the one in JUNGLE ACTION. In fact, Leila’s Wakandan snooty shopping companion Tanzika is the same gal who murdered Royal Advisor Zatama and framed Monica Lynne for it in JUNGLE ACTION 9. Also, kinda like what Phillip was saying about Mike Esposito’s inconsistent inks, I found Vince Colletta’s inks on CAP 170 to be better-than-average.

    b.t.

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  13. b.t., Jungle Action #9 was the first part of 'Panthers Rage' I actually had at the time, so between that and the great Gil/Klaus artwork I must have re-read it endlessly as a kid.
    So I did actually remember Tanzika was in it! That was the reason for the Monica Lynne remark - you just know Laila wouldn't have put up with those pauses...
    And she'd have been a bit more, shall we say, assertive about being stitched up for Zatama.

    -sean

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  14. What can I say about AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 129? The second issue of Spider-man I ever bought, technically the first chapter in the Jackal / Gwen-Clone Saga. I still have the copy that I bought at Michael’s Liquor Store, but it has a noticeable tape-pull on the cover so I couldn’t get top dollar for it if I were to try selling it. I was actually a fan of Don Pendleton’s Executioner paperback series at the time and I was pretty sure that was what Gerry Conway was ripping off-er-I mean-inspired by. I think the Kane/Romita cover is pretty nifty.

    Speaking of covers, Jim Starlin’s AVENGERS cover is all kinds of weird, isn’t it? Is Iron Man firing repulser rays at the Zodiac ship’s exhaust, and If so, why on earth would he do that? The evenly-spaced criss-cross pattern on those buildings down below (even on the rooftops) make them look like they’re made of Rubik’s cubes. Of the story inside, yes, at some point I realized the members of Zodiac don’t really have super-powers (except Gemini who has the strength of two men), so why is it that the assembled Avengers can’t defeat them in about five seconds flat? Seems like Thor could take down the whole lot without breaking a sweat, with Mjolnir tied behind his back.

    b.t.

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  15. b.t. - I started reading the Avengers around these issues, too. I liked the Avengers, because you got more superheroes per story. Also, often Iron Man & Thor were better in the Avengers than in their own stories. Besides, I was interested in Vikings ('Island on Top of the World', etc); also robots & androids (6 Million Dollar Man, Logans Run, etc) - so, the Avengers provided everything - all in one package. Oh, & the Panther was a big favourite, too!

    Nevertheless...aged 8, at first I thought the Vision's name was 'Android', as that's what Iron Man called him, in the Avengers. Moreover, the Vision's disruption technique was never really used, during Englehart's tenure. He did, however, frequently use 'eye beams', whereas with other writers, the Vision's energy blasts came from the jewel on his forehead. (Oh - and, at first, aged 8, I thought Iron Man was a robot of some kind, never having seen him as Tony Stark!) So - like you say - Englehart's run had some quirky aspects to it!

    Phillip

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  16. Such worthy commentary regarding Marvel. Somehow the Punisher cover got Charlie to buy one last ASM. That was a rather intriguing cover for the times, 1973! Alas Charlie would not touch another ASM until another year or so when they showed the boot/calf of Gwen. I think that launched the whole Gwen clone malarkey? And Spidey has not recovered since. Sigh...

    But we all have our preferences and Charlie's this month was far and away The Spectre, Batman - ManBat, and Secret Origins with Blackhawks!

    The Spectre's gruesome tales with Aparo's art... talk about gobsmacked. Only other comics to smack my gob like that run of Spectre's was various EC titles from the 1950s!

    And I dare wonder if this was the first reprinting of the Blackhawk's origins since like 1940/41 when told in Military Comics under the Quality Comics group? Given the growing wave of nostalgia there was no way to NOT buy this title! Always something very cool about Blackhawks... super cool Grumman airplanes, international group and settings, black uniforms, comradery, and Reed Crandall art very often. Superlative!

    may god bless each and every one of you this day!

    Charles

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  17. b.t. - As regards Zodiac's powers, Libra exceeded Mantis's martial arts skills, I seem to recall, and could place one arm/hand on somebody's chest, and raise his other arm/hand, pinning his opponent, and preventing them from moving (unless I'm recalling somebody else!) This happened during the Vietnam storyline, I think.

    Phillip

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  18. Charlie - All the best to yourself, too.

    Phillip

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  19. The pips on BBC radio are 100 years old today. There's a documentary on Radio 4 tonight which asks if we still need the pips in this day and age so that should be interesting.

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  20. Oh, so close. I just missed ASM 129 as I started my comics career with #130. Why I skipped the Punisher but grabbed up the Spidermobile, is a mystery. I did pick up 129 at our local comic shop within a few months; at the time it was a recent back issue and only set me back a dollar. Sure wish I still had that book...

    Regarding pencillers and inkers- I'd agree that Esposito and Colletta had their ups nd downs. I really liked Colletta's inks on some of those Thor issues, yet his inks on Kirby's Fantastic Four were...not so pleasant.

    Esposito always struck me as one of those workman-like inkers; pretty true to the pencils beneath. Which worked well on the likes of John Romita's pencils on Spider-Man. On the other hand, I found his inks on Sal Buscema to be too little; just too bare bones artwise.

    One more art comment- back to ASM 129, that cover rocks. Kane and Romita were a wonderful combination; Kane's dynamic energy and Romita's polish. Unbeatable.

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  21. I’ve mentioned before how reluctant I was to buy any Non-Marvel books in my first few months of active comics collecting. For example, i actually passed on THE SHADOW #2 (i know, I know, what a dumbass). But I barely hesitated to part with my 20c when I spotted ADVENTURE 431 on the spinner rack at Smith’s Food King.

    Earlier that year, there was a copy of PHANTOM STRANGER 21 in that big pile of comics I’d acquired from The Kid On My Street Who Didn’t Want Them Anymore, and I became an instant fan of Jim Aparo’s artwork. When I started actively buying comics a few months later, I was disappointed to see that Aparo wasn’t drawing that book anymore, but when I recognized his art style on that ADVENTURE cover (not to mention the hideous Melting Guy) I was immediately primed to buy that comic, regardless of the contents. And then I opened the book and started flipping through it….

    Holy Crap!

    The story is very simple : Group of criminals rob a armored car and unnecessarily kill the guards, The Spectre hunts them down one by one and kills them in a variety of gruesome ways. It’s Aparo’s dense and atmospheric art that makes it all sing. Realistic figures and settings, dynamic page layouts and unusual camera angles, an array of cross-hatch and pointillist textures combined with lush inky blacks — every page is beautiful , almost as if Aparo has one foot in the Neal Adams school and the other in the Caniff school. It could just be Nostalgia talking, but I think he was at his absolute artistic peak in ‘73/74 (see also the Batman / Joker team-up in BRAVE AND BOLD this same month.)

    Reading it again this morning (the Diversions of the Groovy Age site has handy scans) I was surprised that the first and last Spectre killings are relatively tame. But the Melting Guy sequence still packs a lurid punch 50 years later — no wonder it shocked us back in 1973.

    The big panel where the guy first realizes his arms are turning into hot gooey Silly Putty is horrifying enough but it’s the final panel in the sequence that really gets me : The Spectre dispassionately hovering over his victim, the guy now just a bubbling pile of pinkish goo pudding but somehow still alive — Aparo’s distinctive lettering spelling out the poor guy’s scream , EEEYYYAAAHHHH — it’s a highpoint of 70s Comic Book Horror.

    b.t.

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  22. Redartz :

    My biggest issue with Mike Esposito: he draws the deadest eyes in comics. I agree with all your other criticisms (and those from everyone else here) but it’s those eyes, I’m telling ya, it’s those damn dead-as-a-doorstop eyes. Pull out any issue of Ross Andru’s Spidey inked by Frank Giacoia, put it side-by-side with one inked by Esposito — you’ll see the difference immediately. Andru/ Giacoia eyes sparkle with life; Andru /Esposito eyes are dead, dead, f***ing DEAD!

    As for Esposito inking Sal Buscema : if Sal is doing full pencils (MARVEL TWO IN ONE 5 , say, or DEFENDERS 16) Esposito’s inks are tolerable. If Sal is only doing breakdowns (MARVEL TEAM UP 39-46) Esposito doesn’t bring anything extra to the table, it always looks like he’s doing the bare minimum to get a passing grade. Also: I think Dave Hunt was doing the backgrounds on that MTU run, Esposito only had to ink the figures, and those issues STILL look like stale white bread.

    I’ve always heard that good inkers don’t just trace the pencils, they have to have solid drawing skills of their own. So maybe Mike Esposito was just a lousy artist, period.

    b.t.

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  23. b.t. - Or, on Esposito's most polished work, he could solve the problem with shades!!!

    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Leroy_Tallon_(Earth-616)?file=Leroy_Tallon_%28Earth-616%29_from_Amazing_Spider-Man_Vol_1_155_0001.jpg


    My fave Giacoias are with Sal on Nova's Firefly issue, and Giacoia inking Buckler, on Daredevil vs Angarr.

    Phillip

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  24. That's amazing observation on the inkers, b.t. I just checked out some of those Andru ASM issues and you're absolutely right. I'd never have noticed if you'd not told us though.

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  25. Dangermash:
    Hope I didn’t ruin those issues for you! :) The Conway/Andru run of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN is very controversial (Our Pal Charlie, for one, hates it with the fire of a thousand suns) but I love it, clones and all. It kinda bums me out that Giacoia couldn’t stick around for all of it so I have to kinda grit my teeth when I read the least few issues of that run (inked by Esposito). Same with GIANT-SIZE SPIDEY 3 and 4.

    b.t.

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  26. The flashback to Giant Size Spidey 4's art, in Luke Cage/Power Man Annual, was better than the real version.

    Phillip

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  27. You've not ruined them for me at all, b.t. You've opened my eyes to something new. And given me a renewed appreciation for Giacoia's inks.

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  28. Just to be clear... Charlie's never disliked Ross Andru's art. Also I would never hold the artist responsible for the story line.

    That said I only learned in the past year or so that killing Gwen was Romita's idea, per Romita, and not Conway's. But anyhow, it's 50 years ago now. I was 11. Though it was a big, big deal and the time, I got to let it go, lol..

    B.T. Love your observations on inkers. I think Sean is quite knowledgeable too, about inkers. "When you two talk inkers, Charlie listens!" (That's from an old E F Hutton commercial, lol.) Indeed, it was only at this site, how many years ago, that I learned how much impact the inker has!

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  29. Ian Lavender of DAD'S ARMY fame has died, the last remaining cast member - and yes, the classic "Don't tell him, Pike" scene was included on Radio 4's midnight news.

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  30. The back-up story in ADVENTURE 431 is an odd little Sci-fi parable written by Sheldon Mayer and drawn by Alex Toth at his minimalist best. Supposedly, Toth hated the story, didn’t understand it, and only agreed to illustrate it as a favor to Mayer, who was one of Toth’s mentors when he was first starting out in the business as a teenager.

    As much as I loved Aparo’s Spectre debut, I hated Toth’s art on the Snerl story when I was a kid. Nowadays I think it’s brilliant. What can I say, I didn’t always have the best taste when I was 12. After all, I passed up buying Mike Kaluta’s SHADOW 2 but spent my lunch money on IRON MAN 66.

    b.t.

    b.t.

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  31. Iron Man #66... inked by Mike Esposito I believe, b.t. (;

    Thats mainly where I recall seeing his name in the credits - Iron Man. And the mid-70s MTU. Meaning that I mostly know his inks over work by George Tuska, Don Heck, and Our Pal Sal, so I'm reluctant to be to judgemental. I mean, what can you do with artists like that? (If you're not Alfredo Alcala or Klaus Janson)
    And don't get me started on X-Men #53.

    Esposito did ink Paul Gulacy's pencils in Master of Kung Fu #50 though, and didn't do too badly at all. Better than Pablo Marcos on the previous few issues (admittedly a low bar to clear). So I'm going to say he was just the kind of average pro that was around at the time - nothing special, but he didn't #@€* anything up either.

    -sean

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  32. Sean - See my final sentence (Feb 4th 20:46):

    "Similarly with Iron Man, this one ( # 66) is poor; yet Esposito (with Tuska) is much, much better, on Iron Man # 106."

    Phillip

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  33. Yes, thats how I knew Phillip.
    Taking the conversation full circle back to the top seemed like a good idea at the time. But perhaps I phrased it like too much of a smartarse...?

    -sean

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  34. Sean - Maybe it's just peevishness on my part, having located # 66, quickly skimmed through it, then thinking nobody'd bothered to read what I'd written. Nor have I put it away either, yet - untidy bugger that I am!

    Phillip

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  35. Tsk tsk Phillip. Put your comics away when you've finished reading them!

    -sean

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