tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post5379246737793653193..comments2024-03-28T16:59:18.564+00:00Comments on Steve Does Comics: Marvel Essentials.Steve W.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09191442559702617745noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-14962605035549437762012-03-04T21:00:09.315+00:002012-03-04T21:00:09.315+00:00Speaking of Human Torch, I recently bought vol 1 o...Speaking of Human Torch, I recently bought vol 1 of the silver age Human Torch stories from Strange Tales. I was surprised at how fun those stories are. I enjoyed it so much I bought vol 2.<br /><br />I also bought the AntMan/GiantMan vol and was similarly surprised. Neither the SA Torch or Antman are Kirby's best work or Stans best storytelling. But they're very lighthearted and silly kitsch.Mentorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01627176784080903376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-50183162960572386562012-03-04T20:36:58.157+00:002012-03-04T20:36:58.157+00:00There are some titles that I simply can't read...There are some titles that I simply can't read in black and white. For me, it's integral to read Ditko's Dr. Strange in color. I feel the same about Essential Killraven. I think Starlin's Warlock is like that. Sometimes color is just a very important piece of the puzzle. By contrast, I can look at Colan, Ditko, Romita art in b&w all day long.<br /><br />I have a current run of the Essential Spider-Man volumes. Those are very readable in b&w. Particularly the Ditko and Romita run.<br /><br />I think two other pretty good Essential volumes are SuperVillain Team Up and Man-Thing. SuperVillain is nice for reference purposes in that the entire run is in one volume. <br /><br />And that's why I enjoy Essentials, mainly for quick reference, you can be rough with them, fold them in half, toss them around. Can't do that with a Masterworks.Mentorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01627176784080903376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-73197230467184455272011-08-30T10:33:06.028+01:002011-08-30T10:33:06.028+01:00I have Fantastic Four Vol 3, and I agree with you....I have Fantastic Four Vol 3, and I agree with you.Steve W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09191442559702617745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-70664775565002574822011-08-30T06:12:23.357+01:002011-08-30T06:12:23.357+01:00pick up Fantastic Four, Vol.3 ...you won't b...pick up Fantastic Four, Vol.3 ...you won't be sorry!Super-Duper ToyBoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858607320711118146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-82124748904554210592011-08-20T16:29:50.270+01:002011-08-20T16:29:50.270+01:00I like the Essentials series. Yes, they would be ...I like the Essentials series. Yes, they would be better in colour; yes, even some of the black and white reproductions leave a lot to be desired; but I can cheaply read through the entire run of a character/title and finally find out what happened, instead of reading a synopsis of it in a later comic, or an edited reprint (as in Marvel Tales). <br />My real problem is the 'Essential' title itself. 'Essential' implies indispensable - but I doubt any one of these volumes is filled with completely essential tales. 'Complete' would have done it a lot better. <br />Oh, and 'Essential Defenders Vol I' gets my vote for the best one. It contains the stories in issues of the Hulk, Sub-Mariner and Dr Strange that lead to the creation of the group and complete the origin story much more nicely than merely starting out with the group's first official appearance. Plus, Roy Thomas wrote most of the issues, giving it a good feeling of continuity. <br />Excelsior!Boston Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-89252470558125997812011-08-18T15:54:02.173+01:002011-08-18T15:54:02.173+01:00Defenders, Moon Knight, Luke Cage, Marvel Two-in-o...Defenders, Moon Knight, Luke Cage, Marvel Two-in-one, Nova, Super Villain Team -up, Tomb of Dracula, Howard the Duck and (yes) KIllraven are all great, I think Dr Strange is better in colour because of the "psychedelic" nature of some of the tales, although Ditko would strongly disagree with my adjective.<br /><br />SimonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-48078157724718760652011-08-18T01:59:54.157+01:002011-08-18T01:59:54.157+01:00Sorry, but I consider an essential element of clas...Sorry, but I consider an <i>essential</i> element of classic Marvel to have been colour. Scott McCloud touches on this in <i>Understanding Comics</i> ('A Word About Colour'), when he mentions how the masters of flat-colour comics have also been, above all, 'masters of form and composition', and cites Ditko and Kirby in the process. Ditko works okay in black and white provided he's drawing his own stories involving his own creations. Granted, his work for Marvel works far better in b & w then his work for those old b & w horror magazines in the late '60s. Still, I can't say I'm a fan of <i>The Essentials</i> series.R. W. Watkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14660716315419914578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-70379531907871922042011-08-17T21:24:28.949+01:002011-08-17T21:24:28.949+01:00I would recommend Essential Doctor Strange vol 1 -...I would recommend Essential Doctor Strange vol 1 -3 with some amazing work by Ditko, Colan, B W Smith and Frank Brunner just lovely stuff - some of the titles like - The Marvel Horror issues have some nice work in them as well as does the Moon Knight issues - never understood why Dazzler got the Essentials treatment though McScottyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-54684103001531919572011-08-17T18:53:03.402+01:002011-08-17T18:53:03.402+01:00Pete; I only discovered less than half an hour ago...Pete; I only discovered less than half an hour ago that there's an Essential <i>Godzilla</i>. The existence of such a thing does strike me as madness.Steve W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09191442559702617745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-6735446286139136192011-08-17T17:43:55.078+01:002011-08-17T17:43:55.078+01:00Just won Essential Defenders Vol. 3 on ebay nice a...Just won Essential Defenders Vol. 3 on ebay nice and cheap today ( it's hard to find cheaply it seems) , after finding the first two volumes in a secondhand bookshop recently. I actually have a very decent run of the Non Team's original colour books but not the very earliest issues so Vol. 1 has been a godsend! I too was weaned on early British Marvel's so reading these books reminds me alot of those times.<br /><br />AAde Salmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906206135219123778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-66534708311583149692011-08-17T13:51:42.775+01:002011-08-17T13:51:42.775+01:00Like you lot, I read all this stuff in UK weeklies...Like you lot, I read all this stuff in UK weeklies, so the Essential's totally work for me. B & W obviously doesn't hurt Colan on Tomb Of Dracula one jot, but it also makes Bryne & Austin's X-Men shine too. Although it is a shame that, due to the chonological nature of them, I often find myself buying vol. 1 & 2 of something to get all the issues I'd like, when I'd rather just buy one. Case in point, Man-Thing, where it would've been nicer to have the whole Gerber run in one book, and not have to suffer Claremont's godawful sequel. Also Defenders: All of Englehart's run, followed by all of Gerber's in seperate volumes would've been nice, but that's not the point of Essentials. And it is nice to finally read the gaps in your collection.<br />So, the ones to get: Anything by Gerber, especially Tales Of The Zombie, as it works as one complete story, Avengers 3, 4 & 6 ( though not 5, very filler-y stuff there ), Dracula & the whole Lee / Kirby FF and of course Spidey. Not that everything else is rubbish ( I still like Killraven! ), but those are truly 'essential'<br />Not to get? Godzilla & Spider-Woman. Crap then, still crap.pete doreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17004574271734256770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-70216996373020087722011-08-17T10:01:37.826+01:002011-08-17T10:01:37.826+01:00I do have a great many of the Essentials, mostly p...I do have a great many of the Essentials, mostly purchased from Forbidden Planet on Matilda Street, or from Waterstone's while I worked there. Captain Marvel gave me another look at the great Gene Colan's work, as did all the Tomb of Dracula Essentials, and Howard the Duck let me read the one Gerber issue I don't own. Like yourself, I never bothered with Ant Man or The Human Torch, but the fact that the Essentials reprints let me go back to the first stories of Spider-Man and Captain America I ever read in the UK weeklies and then see all that came before them is just priceless. I love these value for money editions.HannibalCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03970584876708307571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-57273118953363132982011-08-17T08:43:44.365+01:002011-08-17T08:43:44.365+01:00Doug; The reproduction in The Avengers Vol 3 is in...Doug; The reproduction in <i>The Avengers</i> Vol 3 is indeed terrible in places and, as you say, a number of the earlier tales in it are clearly copied direct from published comics. It always seemed a shame Marvel didn't make the effort to clean the images up.<br /><br />Then again, I grew up reading the reprints in the UK Marvel comics which generally looked even worse. So, for me, it was like an exercise in nostalgia to see the the stories looking so bad.Steve W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09191442559702617745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-53973247704056557762011-08-17T08:00:09.133+01:002011-08-17T08:00:09.133+01:00I love the Essentials and Showcase books. They are...I love the Essentials and Showcase books. They are cheap and easy to read and give you a ton of storytelling for a nice price. <br /><br />The Essentials volume I most craved was the Ant-Man volume. It was the one which had stories I'd never seen in any other format before. <br /><br />One thing I did with my Essentials after several were available was to do a chronological reading of Marvel, month by month. <br /><br />The story is really intriguing as the characters shift around and develop. By the time the Hulk series gets canceled they really had their acts together and the saga just rolled along. <br /><br />Rip OffRip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-48961868597491284222011-08-17T04:11:03.222+01:002011-08-17T04:11:03.222+01:00Steve --
In regard to the Avengers Vol. 3, don...Steve --<br /><br />In regard to the Avengers Vol. 3, don't you think some of the reproductions are terrible? The cover you picture is the same edition that I have, and it looks like about half of the issues inside were shot from original art, while the other half look like poor photocopies of the colored pages. Very muddy...<br /><br />But overall it is a great volume -- lots of wonderful stuff, and you're right about the creative team. At its zenith.<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263300365798803459.post-4912453567540160752011-08-17T02:44:26.830+01:002011-08-17T02:44:26.830+01:00I have a few Essentials volumes because, like you,...I have a few Essentials volumes because, like you, I first encountered Marvel stories in b&w reprints. (The Odhams Power Comics, most of which I still own.) I even have the colour Masterwork editions of most of those stories as well - including Ant Man/Giant Man and the Human Torch. The reproduction in some of the early Essentials books was rather poor 'though.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.com