Thursday 3 October 2024

October 5th 1974 - Marvel UK, 50 years ago this week.

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Martial arts mayhem was still ruling unsurpassed in Britain, this week in 1974, with Carl Douglas' Kung Fu Fighting retaining the singles chart pinnacle it had claimed seven days earlier.

However, there was change - of a sort - atop the corresponding LP listings, thanks to Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells having now snatched pole position from his own Hergest Ridge. Clearly, there was no stopping the lad.

The Mighty World of Marvel #105, The Hulk, Jim Starlin

It's like a flashback to the early days of the venture, with Jim Starlin giving us a MWOM cover. Although, admittedly, this time, it wasn't drawn specifically for the comic.

Inside, I do believe Hulkie's crashed back to Earth, following his outer space adventure and is about to have another run-in with the Sandman who, in his urge to find a cure for being made of glass, decides to invade a hospital and force Betty Ross to give him a quick and total blood swap.

I can't see the jade one taking this lying down.

Meanwhile, the man without fear has been sentenced to death by the Owl - as has a judge - and this leads to the feathery fiend unveiling his greatest weapon yet - a giant robot owl that looks like it weighs more than a planet and would struggle to get off the ground even if gravity had never been invented.

The Fantastic Four are still having their first ever meeting with Galactus. And I do suspect Alicia is having her first ever meeting with the Silver Surfer.

But can she convince him of the innate goodness of humanity?

Judging by his whingeing about the awfulness of humanity in his later solo series, seemingly not.

Spider-Man Comics Weekly #86, Man-Mountain Marko

This week's cover does somewhat oversell the threat Man-Mountain Marko poses to Spider-Man.

Still, at least he does pose a threat to the Shocker's girlfriend.

And that's bad news for us all because she's the latest custodian of that pesky ancient tablet the whole world seems to want. Latest to want it is Marko's employer Silvermane, ageing head of the Maggia.

Next, it's a tale never to be forgotten, as the Chameleon decides to trick Iron Man into fighting Captain America, for reasons I can't recall.

To do this, he, of course, shows up at Tony Stark's factory, claiming he's Cap and has been given a good beating by the Chameleon who's now posing as the star-spangled superstar.

Possibly the most disappointing aspect of this tale is the sight of Iron Man knocking Kraven the Hunter out with one punch, making Spider-Man's numerous epic labours to defeat the villain look a bit pathetic.

Thor, meanwhile, pays a visit to the trolls' homeland in a bid to retrieve his stolen hammer.

And, there, he encounters the mysterious captive alien Orikal and releases him from his flame-lined prison.

The Avengers #55, Iron Fist vs the Scythe

Iron Fist claims the front cover and reiterates his legendary ability to beat up pavements, as he must confront the menace of the Scythe.

In total contrast to what we've been getting from Shang-Chi's strip, he's an assassin, sent to kill our hero.

Elsewhere, the stars of the comic are still behind the Iron Curtain and still trying to liberate the Black Widow from her former communist overlords.

But for that to happen, Captain America must overcome her husband the Red Guardian, a man designed to be equal to him in every way.

Needless to say, he doesn't turn out to be equal to him in every way.

Not that it does Cap much good, as he's soon captured by others.

And what of the doctor of strangeness?

He's still trying to recoup Victoria Bentley from the clutches of Scientist Supreme Yandroth who's now resorted to inflicting monsters from his id on his opponent.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

I’ve always liked that Starlin Banner-into-Hulk cover image. Though the way Starlin drew Ol’ Greenskin’s eyes and brows in this one, he doesn’t just look angry or mean, he looks straight-up EVIL. I seem to remember that in the interim between his stints on Captain Marvel and Warlock, there was a flurry of Starlin covers, and that they were a welcome change-of-pace from the glut of Gil Kane covers (nice though those generally were).

Steve, you know I love Jazzy Johnny, but Man-Mountain Marko is a perfect example of what was lost when Stan Lee couldn’t find a way to keep Steve Ditko on the Spider-man series. And I say that as someone who actually prefers Romita’s run overall — but thinking up fascinatingly weird and iconic villains wasn’t really his forte.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Regarding that Hulk cover, I prefer the version on The Incredible Hulk Annual 1978. No flat head; no prominent collar bones; less knobbly knuckles; eyes far less evil. And - besides all that - you get an extra transformation stage!

Iron Man embarrassing Spidey, by knocking Kraven out with one punch, reminds me of Captain Marvel easily trashing the Ramrod, making Daredevil and the Black Widow look like rank amateurs. To me, Gerber was throwing some cold common sense on proceedings.

But, comparing the stories, it demonstrates, once again, that there's nothing new under the Sun.

Phillip

Anonymous said...

BT, et al. So is Man Mountain Marko a Romita creation? Stan was just dialogue and perhaps overall concept / context for a story?

I wonder about who was responsible for what at Marvel especially Romita vs. Conway decision to kill Gwen. This is because I was gobsmacked a year ago where I read a quote from Romita saying he had the idea / was the proponent to kill Gwen.

Joe P

dangermash said...

Good shout by b.t. there. It¡s not just that Romita didn't great such great villains - I reckon it's also the case that Ditko would have made someone like Marko seem more of a threat. If he can make the Enforcers look good, he can do anything.

I feel I should speak up on Spider-Man's behalf though. Forget the U.K. chronology. That Iron Man story came out two months after Kraven's first appearance in ASM #15 and 0-2 months after ASM Annual #1 and:

(i) ASM 15, Kraven's biggest weapon is his nerve punch, which almost puts Spider-Man out of action. But there's no way that punch would work on Iron Man through his armour, and

(ii) Spider-Man doesn't have any trouble with Kraven in the annual (which is either just before or just after this Iron Man story). Kraven has a card disclosing the location of the next villain (Mysterio in a warehouse? ) and Spider-Man snatches it easily and heads off to his next appointment with Kraven unable to stop him.

Anonymous said...

Hmm - Gary Brodsky & Joe Sinnott - but it's Starlin's pic, as near as dammit!

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Hulk_Annual_(UK)_Vol_1_1978?file=Hulk_Annual_%28UK%29_Vol_1_1978.png

Phillip

Steve W. said...

In fairness, Jazzy John did give the world the Rhino, the Shocker and the Kingpin and designed the Punisher and Hammerhead, as well as redesigning the Black Widow, when it came to Spidey's strip.

Anonymous said...

Joe - If that's true, Gerry Conway deserves an apology from you, him being your bete noire, all these years! ; )

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Steve, that’s a fair point. Romita also designed Wolverine (his initial look, anyway) and Luke Cage and lots of others. And to Joe P.’s question up yonder, unless the creators have gone on record as to who came up with the initial concept for certain characters, there’s really no way to know for sure (and sometimes not even then).

b.t.

Anonymous said...

b.t.

Me too. I always liked the way Starlin drew the Hulk!
But he was always good at drawing big bruisers.
As far as Spider-Man goes, I don't think the writers back then had a very clear idea about how strong he was supposed to be.
I mean, even the Kingpin gave him a hard time back then. When I first discovered Spider-Man as a kid, I wasn't aware he had super-strength.
The ability to climb up walls was by itself pretty impressive. What little kid wouldn't want to be able to do that?
I sorta prefer it that way. The more powerful they get, the less interesting the characters are.
That's why i think being the writer on the Incredible Hulk would be a tough job.

M.P.

Anonymous said...

M.P. - Spidey was my first Marvel superhero (not saying much, but the anthology comic started with him!) Being accustomed to Batman (Adam West version), Spidey 'uprooting' a streetlight, within the first panels, impressed me mightily, regarding his strength. Were it Superman or the Hulk, so what? But Spidey didn't look strong, but was - that was key! You relate to the world visually, aged 8 - not any other way. Appearance-wise, Captain America looked stronger than Spidey, when I first read Cap in # 215. Finding out Captain America wasn't strong, later, was thus disappointing. To me, Cap gaining strength, via the Viper, was a great idea, it levelling him up with Spidey! Nevertheless, as you say regarding the Hulk, the stronger they are, the more problems for the writer - e.g. Spidey exchanging blows with the Punisher, when - in reality - any blow from Spidey would be almost fatal for Frank Castle!

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

I've always liked Mike Oldfield's instrumental version of the medieval Christmas carol IN DULCI JUBILO.

Anonymous said...

Colin - Another good Mike Oldfield instrumental's 'Portsmouth', featured on the 'Echoes of Gold' album. And let's not forget 'To France' - that's a great one, too!

Phillip

Anonymous said...

To France - not an instrumental - pedants' corner.

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Pedantry, Phillip? Here...? Surely not.

Anyway - "Stan was just dialogue and perhaps overall concept...?"
Who actually created what in the early Marvel comics? And what exactly was Stan Lee's contribution? Well that's a discussion thats been going on for a while, Joe!
Interesting you should ask under a post which covers Lee/Kirby classics, including on introducing a character - the Silver Surfer - we know for sure was created by Jack on his own.

-sean

Anonymous said...

I'm not normally one to go off topic here, but anyway - did anyone else read about the guy in Montana who got sent down for cloning a hybrid sheep?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/01/sheep-cloning-montana-hunting-prison

Does that kind of thing happen much in the US? Because it seems pretty strange to me, like something out of a 70s issue of OMAC.
Weirder than than some people supposedly eating pets, thats for sure.

-sean

Anonymous said...

SEAN -Charlie is never one to deviate; he scrupulously stays focused on SDC! However, just once, he’ll bite.

Any nut-fuckery you can imagine takes place in the USA. Indeed, it is something of a thing to google “on [date of your choice] in Florida” and see what comes up because that state is NF central.

Anonymous said...

Anyhow, regarding cloning, Charlie can report that americuns are buying CRISPR machines (Charlie hears they are not actually all that expensive, like $15k?) splicing genes, and then injecting the shit into their blood.

One nut job tried to turn himself black. I think the same nut job also tried to get big muscles. And he literally was using the CRISPR in his garage and streaming to YouTube.

Apparently there are no laws against random people splicing their (?) genes in their garage as a fun pastime and injecting them.

Look out Steve Rogers!!! Charlie is coming!!!

Colin Jones said...

Talking of Florida, whatever happened to Ron DeSantis? He was supposed to be the rising star of the Republican party but nobody talks about him anymore.

Anonymous said...

Didn't Ron DeSanctimonious basically blow his Presidential chances by running against Trump for the Republican nomination, Colin?

Charlie, I think it's one thing to have a CRISPR machine in your basement, but for working with complex organisms you'd probably need centrifuges, freezers and whatnot too.
So genesplicing your own master race will be outside of most peoples' budget for a while yet. But making biological weapons of mass destruction in your basement is probably getting fairly affordable...

-sean

Colin Jones said...

That's true, Sean, but apparently Republican voters outside Florida found DeSantis to be boring and uninspiring. Poor Ron had tried so hard to appeal to the MAGA crowd with his anti-woke agenda - "Florida is where woke comes to die" etc.

Anonymous said...

One might think there is potential for a “black mirror” type of super hero comic using CRISPRs?

Dont know why but Charlie is vibing LEGION OF SUPERHEROES back in the 1960s (70s too?) when the Legion would have try outs! Help my memory, wasn’t there a story where the rejects banded together to attack the Legion in order to prove they should be members of the Legion? If anyone has an issue number for that, Charlie would be much obliged!

Anonymous said...

Colin-
Florida is also where affordable home insurance policies go to die.

M.P.