Sunday, 8 December 2024

Forty years ago today - December 1984.

Thanks to Charlie Horse 47 and Killdumpster for their sponsorship of this post, via the magic of Patreon
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Wait!

What is that fair voice which, like a trilling princess, calls out to me?

Why, 'tis the past.

And I know in which way it lies.

The Avengers #250

The Avengers find themselves battling the Fist of Maelstrom, which sounds like the sort of fist you wouldn't want to find yourself having to battle.

It turns out that not only did Maelstrom not die the last time our heroes fought him but he's alive and well and growing rapidly.

But how can those heroes defeat a foe capable of becoming as big as he needs to be to crush them?

Simple. By making him grow so large he loses all density and fades away.

But, hold on. Didn't Reed Richards use that method to dispatch a foe, just a few months ago?

The Uncanny X-Men #188

The X-Men finally defeat the Dire Wraiths, with a little help from the forces of magic. And Rachel Summers joins the team then tells them just where she came from and what happened to her version of the planet Earth.

Meanwhile, a fair distance away from all that, Magneto's corpse is fished out of the ocean.

But it's a lot more alive than it's supposed to be!

The Spectacular Spider-Man #97

Spider-Man meets a man who's always right. A condition which leads to him wanting to be alone, in order to escape the constant demands of his fellow man.

The trouble is, people won't let him be alone.

Especially the criminal underworld who think that having a man who's always right on their side may prove advantageous.

It is intriguing that his power is basically the same as that of The Answer who died a couple of issues ago.

Is this pure coincidence? Or is there some kind of link between the two men? One that we - and he - have yet to discover?

Fantastic Four #273

Reed Richards makes the not-so-shocking discovery that the evil warlord who's happily ruining an entire world is his own father.

However, is the ageing scientist really to blame?

Or is his devious wife the true culprit of the piece?

Iron Man #189

Iron Man comes up against the maddening menace of the Termite, a villain who, despite his name and helmet, is not the Ant-Man knock-off we might expect him to be. He, instead, has the power to bore through anything.

Does that mean he bores his way through this comic?

No he doesn't. In that regard, he proves to be more than adequately entertaining.

Not that Rhodey thinks so, as he makes a total Horlicks of dealing with the villain.

And his distrust of Tony Stark is growing by the hour.

Daredevil #213

Having teamed up with the Kingpin, Daredevil fights the latest chapter in his interminable war with Micah Synn.

But, seriously, how can it be taking this long for him to put a stop to the activities of a cut-price Tarzan clone?

Conan the Barbarian #165

Conan has plenty on his plate when he and a bunch of rival thieves decide to steal from a temple, in a tale of greed, lust, confusion, possession and repossession.

Captain America #300, the Red Skull

The rapidly ageing Cap and Red Skull battle each other to the death - and it looks like death has indeed come for the pair of them.

But then, in a cop-out and a half, Black Crow shows up, for no good reason, de-ages Cap on the spot, and saves him.

Thor #350, Beta-Ray Bill is back

Beta Ray Bill returns when the warriors of Asgard join forces with Earth's mightiest heroes to battle Surtur's hordes on the streets of New York.

But, back in Asgard, Odin waits alone to deal with the fire demon, should he show up in the Realm Eternal.

And Thor, the soft lad, has managed to accidentally create a rainbow which the villain can use to get to that self-same realm!

The Amazing Spider-Man #259

Spider-Man finds himself in Retro Mode, as he goes back to this old costume.

And that's not all. Mary Jane decides to tell his everyday alter-ego her less than fun-packed backstory.

Meanwhile, the Hobgoblin is putting himself around town and cutting himself in on everybody else's dodgy activities.

The Incredible Hulk #302

It's the thriller you thought you'd never see, when the Hulk finds himself on a planet where everyone is stronger than he is and where he's no longer invulnerable!

Still, at least he's still got his looks.

24 comments:

Matthew McKinnon said...

Well, Steve - in answer to your DD question [and additionally, in response to the handful of readers at the time wondering when Mazzucchelli's great-looking layouts will finally be rid of those totally unsuitable inks]... next month. Things switch up next month. Sort of.

Meanwhile, that cover is nice, isn't it?

Just that and Thor for me. I can't remember what was going on at this point inThor. I'm about to start re-reading the run though, as I picked up the Masterworks edition this weekend. It has the original colours, so I was a blue to sell the Omnibus edition I couldn't get more than a few pages into every time I picked it up. Digital re-colouring really sucks.

Anonymous said...

I was *able*, not 'I was a blue'. Thanks as ever, Google.

Anonymous said...

Strange days... Charlie actually read ASM 259! It cost him $4.99 to buy as a "Marvel Facsimile" reprint which is a 100% cover-to-cover reprint printed earlier this year, LOL!

All in all it kept my interest!
- Loved seeing Peter and MJ walk through the woods looking all 1980s "Richard Simmons" like.
- Something is going on where MJ clearly knows Petey-boy is Spidey.
- The Hobgoblin is shaking down the underworld.

But.. the Ron FRENZ art is not my favorite.

Also Petey and MJ talk about everything from when they met in the mid-60s tbut for GWEN STACEY. Granted if we were dealing with "real years" then MJ at this time would be in her mid to late 30s and no point dwelling on Gwen.

But what's also cool is that being a December issue, this was probably on the stand in September. Why is that cool??? Well for us US kiddos (UK too) this is when the Big 3 network stations (ABC, NBC, and CBS) rolled out their new lineup of Cartoons. NBC is promoting "SPIDER MAN AND HIS AMAZING FRIENDS." (Was it any good?)

Also, Marvel is hucking "SECRET WARS" action figures!

There are 2-pages of Letters!

There actually is a BULLPEN PAGE and a CHECKLIST. Regrettably SOL BRODSKY had passed only 61 years old. From what I know Sol was like the "go to" guy and "got stuff done" at Marvel in terms of production, distribution....

All in all, Charlie is tempted to get an ARCHIVE edition from the library to follow the story line through. But for the art it's O-TAY!

(MATTHEW - you sure this is not the issue you were thinking of a month ago when RED asking about comics that reminded you of Autumn?)

Anonymous said...

Is it true the MAELSTROM'S ONE FIST originally appeared in EC COMIC'S TWO-FISTED TALES?

Kind of makes sense it would have.

Anonymous said...

Lastly - then Charlie has to hang up to turn on 93.9 to check in on Delilah's nightly xmas-song program - I was wondering how many heroes / villains were named after insects.

I mean, a few years ago we covered the animal kingdom.

And then, as if STEVE was reading my mind, he spotlights the TERMITE! Spiders Termites, Ants, Beatles... anything else?

Anonymous said...

I was so out of the loop by that point, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of this Maelstrom person. Also, I’m kinda glad I wasn’t reading FF anymore either, that storyline about Reed’s Dad (or maybe his Mom?) being a sci-fi villain sounds lazy and dumb to me. Maybe I’m wrong, and it was actually a profound, exciting and emotionally moving comic, one for the ages.

I might actually have bought that DAREDEVIL, the cover looks VERY familiar. DD himself looks kinda Colan-ish to me. Neat! But if Bulanadi was still wrecking — er, I mean inking Mazzuchelli’s pencils on the interior pages, my memory cells haven’t retained any images from it. Would I have bought the issue just for the cover? Could be, I suppose.

b.t.

Colin Jones said...

You mean beetles, Charlie, not beatles - and you forgot the Wasp.

Spiders are arachnids, by the way, not insects but we'll overlook it :)

Anonymous said...

I didn’t have any of these. A quick check on my comics suggests:

Axel Pressbutton #2
Beauty and the beast #1 (the Dazzler Beast team up with Billy the Sink cover). Having presumably not learned my lesson with last month’s Kitty and Wolverine!
Manbat #1 (Neal Adam’s reprints on Baxter paper)
Mister X #3 (brilliant Hernández brothers issue)
Teen Titans #49
Swamp Thing #31 (no longer CCA approved)
Warrior #25 (featuring the brilliant ‘Valerie’ chapter of V for Vendetta)
For years I thought this was the final issue of Warrior until stumbling across the rare #26.

Sorry for potentially jumping the gun with some (one) of these.

DW

Matthew McKinnon said...

Charlie -
Just checked back on the Autumn discussion and that wasn’t me. I’m afraid I was bereft of anything worthwhile to say on the subject - but what’s new there, hey?

DW -
Yeah, I guess we’re now at The End Of Warrior.
A moment’s silence for the 2nd most important British comic of the modern era.
That issue 26 didn’t really make it to newsagents, I suspect. I only came across it at the time by chance on one of my bi-annual visits to a big city comics shop.

And whilst I’m on the subject of comics shops, I paid a farewell visit to Mega City Comics in Camden Town the other day. It’s closing its doors in January. It was where I used to go to get comics when I lived a short bus journey away in the mid-late 1990s and was just beginning my adult adventure living and working in London (and rediscovering comics after a short break). It had a very pleasant and distinctive smell of decades of dry newsprint and dust, and the people who worked there were always really nice. I shall miss it.

Anonymous said...

Matthew

I think it took more than a year before I stumbled across #26 in a comic store in Basildon (The cartoon shop?). Because of Leach’s faux Eagle cover, I initially thought it may have been a spoof, but the new chapter of V, confirmed its legitimacy. In many ways, ‘Valerie’ was a better final chapter than the actual final, before it continued with DC. I vaguely remember seeing the next (unpublished) chapter (or pages therefrom) in Comic Showcase. Can anyone confirm this, or did I make it up?

BTW. You’re up early this morning.

DW

Anonymous said...

I should clarify, Comic Showcase was a shop that had some David Lloyd original V art, rather than another publication. I remember Mega City Comics from ads. Can’t recall if I ever shopped there. I’d left by the mid 90s.

DW

Anonymous said...

DW - sorry to hear about your long-time bestie LCBS closing. It does give one pause to see their memories/past experiences really become relegated to only memories.

Anonymous said...

Well Charlie mucked that up!!! MATTHEW sorry to hear about your LCBS closing!

I had a weird depressive shock a few months ago when Mike who ran BACK IN THE BRONZE AGE with RED told us he was selling off his collection of original comic book art.

In a weird way, I really felt like a misanthrope… Still going to comic books stores occasionally, buying the occasional back issue online… And yet everyone else around me had either sold or is selling off their comic book collection and paraphernalia as they age.

WERE IT NOT FOR BITBA, Charlie Would never have discovered Steve does Comics!

Matthew McKinnon said...

DW - I’m usually up around 5am (two very entitled cats) but I do a little second shift of sleep afterwards.

Charlie-
I often wonder how long I’ll hang onto my comics. I can’t see myself losing interest in them though. And I’m very attached to the actual objects, for powerful nostalgic reasons.

Redartz said...

Matthew- always sorry to hear about a comic shop shutting it's doors. Nothing beats the experience of poring over boxes of vintage books, in search of a grail or two...

Charlie- fear not, you're not alone! While I too am selling off much of my collection, I still pick up the occasional oldie , still love to read and discuss them, even as the years pile on. And it helps to have an interested grandson- my little fellow in Arizona wants to visit a comic shop with me so he can pick up a few (he's 6 years old, and a budding comic fan /artist; grandpa couldn't be happier).
And regarding ASM 259- that was a pretty good issue, fascinating to see the focus on Mary Jane. And I actually was pretty fond of Ron Frenz' work, overall. With a good inker he really shone...
D.W.- we both bought that "Beauty and the Beast" issue; personally I can't reall a thing about it. Must not have been too memorable. Now that Mister X issue, though- your'e right, it was 'X'cellent...

Anonymous said...

The only comic I am familiar with here is Thor #350, Steve. Its the start of Ragnarok, and the final showdown with - DOOM! - Surtur... which carries on through the next three issues.
Not that the conclusion to the storyline is bad or anything - Simonson handles the epic stuff reasonably well - but it might have been better to wrap it up in a double-size issue? As it is, it feels a bit dragged out over four.

Plus it was a little disappointing he didn't do something more interesting with the Avengers and FF. Compared to, say, Alan Moore's take on the JLA in Swamp Thing or (a little later) Frank Miller's approach to Cap and the Avengers in Daredevil, Simonson does a fairly standard comic book crossover. Nothing wrong with that I guess but he was capable of something more distinctive.

As for putting the Casket of Ancient Winter back together with super glue - which may be in the next issue rather this one, but anyway - I can't decide whether that was a really dumb idea, or brilliant.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Comic Showcase was... the one in Neal St, right DW? They used to have a lot of originals on sale there - I recall lots of Watchmen pages (I wish it had occurred to me to save up and buy a few!). Can't confirm a post-Warrior V sighting, but its quite possible.

Did you not get Green Lantern #183 in December '84 then? Dave Gibbons' work on the series was never a must buy for me, but that one - and #182 - had brilliant Lantern Corps back ups drawn by Kevin O'Neil.

-sean

Colin Jones said...

I've just looked at the Billboard Hot 100 and there are much fewer Xmas songs than in the UK chart. Highest Xmas song on Billboard is Mariah Carey at #10 followed by Brenda Lee at #15.

Anonymous said...

Sean, no I didn’t buy any of Gibbons’ GL run, and in fact the only GL I ever bought were those Alan Moore annuals (Tygers and the brilliant one with F-sharp bell). I think Comic Showcase moved during my patronage, and Neal St. sounds like it was one of their locations. Yes, I think they had the original art for the unpublished chapter, for a while.

Matthew, funnily enough I was also woken around 5am this morning by the cat. Annoyingly West Ham didn't kick off until 6am…

DW

Anonymous said...

This wasn't a great month for Marvel, in my opinion.
As far as Ron Frenz, I thought he got better, once he got on Thor. But of course the inker accounts for a lot of it.
As far as selling my comics, geez, i don't even wanna think about it yet, even though I just read comics on line now.
Mostly old stuff! My collection is big enough that I gotta keep it in my Ma's basement! (She's okay with it)
If that isn't the definition of a comic book nerd, I dunno what is.

M.P.

Anonymous said...

COLIN!!! The notion that people are not buying Christmas music anymore or perhaps not as much, is very disturbing!

Time for Steve to Break into his fault with all that money he made from us purchasing through his website via Amazon!


STEVE please take some of those millions you earned off of us and start buying Christmas 45s! Maybe you can push ELVISs blue Christmas to the top of the charts?

Colin Jones said...

You'll be glad to know that Andy Williams is in the Billboard Hot 100, Charlie.

Steve W. said...

Charlie, nearly 50% of the tracks on this week's UK singles chart are Christmas songs. I, therefore, feel it's safe for me to spend my vast fortune on Christmas snacks instead.

Anonymous said...

No doubt chocolate oranges which we did find at our local Trader Joe’s which is a raving success story in america and now owned by one of the Aldi brothers (north Germany?).