Sunday 28 July 2024

July 1984 - Marvel UK monthlies, 40 years ago this month.

Thanks to Charlie Horse 47 and Killdumpster for their sponsorship of this post, via the magic of Patreon
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July 1984 was an exciting time to be female. Not only did Liechtenstein become the last country in Europe to grant women the right to vote, it was also the month in which Salyut 7 cosmonaut Svetlana Savitskaya became the first woman to perform a space walk.

But there was also reason to be excited if you were an Argentinian male. Especially if your name was Diego Maradona. After all, that very footballer was sold by FC Barcelona to SSC Napoli for a then world record fee of £6.9 million.

And there was other news on the sporting front because July saw the start of the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.

Meanwhile, in Britain, the government announced the abolition of the dog licence, meaning you no longer had to pay to watch your dog. The licence had long been a matter of contention, thanks to the fact that owners of black and white dogs had to pay less than owners of dogs that were in full colour. Also, there'd been much confusion as to whether you needed a licence if you recorded your dog on VHS and watched it later.

Drama hit Wales, thanks to a magnitude 5.4 earthquake with an epicentre in the Llŷn Peninsula. So powerful was the event that it was felt throughout the United Kingdom. Although I have to say it wasn't felt where I was and I managed to completely miss it.

Sending shock waves through the UK singles chart were Frankie Goes to Hollywood whose Two Tribes spent the entire month at Number One.

And it was a near-identical tale on the British album chart, with Bob Marley's Legend spending the whole of July in pole position.

Doctor Who Magazine #90, Peter Davison

In light of Peter Davison's stint in the show coming to an end, the magazine that's, presumably, bigger on the inside than on the outside pays tribute to his era.

And that includes an interview with Graeme Harper director of Davison's last serial The Caves of Androzani.

I do believe he's also the only director from the Classic Who era to have directed a story in the Nu-Who era.

The Savage Sword of Conan #81

I could thrill you with all kinds of information about the contents of this comic but I choose not to.

Mostly because I don't have a clue what the contents of this comic are.

Granted, I think I can safely guess that Conan the Barbarian's in it and there's likely a beautiful young lady and a dodgy sorcerer.

There may even be an inhuman fiend on the loose but that's purely speculation on my part.

The Mighty World of Marvel #14, X-Men and the Micronauts

I do believe this is the last issue I ever encountered of this comic.

I also believe that, in his first post-Alan Moore tale, Captain Britain encounters a strange female called Meggan and thus do we get the start of a beautiful friendship.

Next, we're delivered a Marvel Showcase piece titled Disenchantment (part 2), as brought to us by Simon Jacobs.

Then, Night-Raven finds himself in a thriller they call Pathology: Episode One.

Now, there's a second Marvel Showcase story. This time, labelled Metempsychosis and created by Tim Perkins.

And, finally, the X-Men are still teaming up with the Micronauts against Baron Karza and and an evil version of Professor X.

Starburst #71, Indian Jones and the Temple of Doom

The nation's favourite sci-fi mag presents an exclusive 
preview of the new archaeological adventure the world will come to know as Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

Elsewhere, Ron Howard's interviewed about his brand new film Splash.

And, speaking of directors, we're presented with the second part of the magazine's interview with Joe Dante.

Plus, there's a chat with the new boss of Hammer Films, although some may be surprised to learn there is still such a thing as Hammer Films in 1984. Apparently, he'll be talking about all the company's plans for the future.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

You know… Charlie still really digs those Conan coverz! My LCS has just gotten a stack of them and they are for sale at $5 each. Late 70s, early 80s stuff. May have to break out sawbuck and buy a couple!!!

Anonymous said...

COLIN- we watched STEPFORD WIVES from 2005 starring (I can hear the blowback now lol) FERRIS BUELLER AND NICOLE KIDMAN!

Anonymous said...

It was good! Mrs. Charlie advised the original STEPFORD was probably from the 1970s and likely more tense! This one was actually humorous, almost as if it had been adapted from a musical or play.

Anonymous said...

In the hype leading up to the ‘84 Olympics, there was much pearl-clutching about how difficult it would be to get around in L.A., traffic was going to be a nightmare, it was going to be horrible, just HORRIBLE I tell you. Well, it might have been bad ‘over the hill’ in Westwood, Santa Monica, Downtown, etc but here in the San Fernando Valley you’d never know anything out of the ordinary was going on.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

I’m guessing once dog licensing stopped, dog thieving kicked in, in Yorkshire?

Colin Jones said...

Charlie, I didn't know there was a remake of The Stepford Wives. I thought your DVD was the original version from 1975 which definitely wasn't a comedy. In the original version the wives get murdered and replaced by robots so Mrs. Charlie was correct about it being more tense!

Los Angeles will host the Olympics again in 2028. The 1932 Olympics were also held in Los Angeles and the opening ceremony was held on July 30th 1932, just two days after my mother was born.

Anonymous said...

Bad Moon Rising was indeed the first post Alan Moore Captain Britain, Steve, scripted by then lettered Steve Craddock. He was promoted in the UK press (fanzines) as the new writer but only lasted two issues. I think this, and next month’s ‘Tea and Sympathy’ were pretty good but somewhat rooted in everyday life, rather than the histrionics of the Moore storyline. I don’t recall reading any backstory explaining why Craddock didn't stay longer. Anyone know? Perhaps they simply wanted one of the league of substitute Moores, and got Jamie Delano a month or so later.

DW

Matthew McKinnon said...

Steve:
The dog license jokes made me laugh out loud.
Thanks.

I’d forgotten there was ever such a thing as a dog license (though I haven’t had a dog since 1975, so fair enough). I do now vaguely remember a recurring Fred Bassett joke about them…?

Had that MWOM. It’s surprising how long I hung on for after Moore left. I guess I was still into Alan Davis at that point, and hoping for other interesting original material. I’d no idea Craddock wrote a couple of stories, I assumed Moore just slipped his mate Delano into place straight away; and yeah I do remember those ones being not too bad. Could be any number of reasons - maybe Delano need to serve a notice period on his day job?

Starburst: had this too. I wouldn’t call their coverage of Temple of Doom a preview as the film had been out a month or so by this point,
I am a vocal fan of Temple of Doom, but I watched it recently on 4K disc for the first time in a while, and though it looks glorious I liked it a little bit less this time. It’s definitely the 2nd best in the series. Well, a series of 2 films for me actually - I have no time for any of the following instalments.

I went to see Splash later that year. I think that and Footloose were the first non-SF / fantasy films I’d been to see for a decade. The little nerd was growing up.

Anonymous said...

Has anybody ever seen Splash or Footloose more than once?
I have not.
Some movies, you see them once and think, "Okay, I got that over with. I'm done. Fine. Now I can get on with my life."
I've probably seen Lawrence of Arabia eight or nine times. I can pretty much recite the dialogue at this point, particularly that of Prince Faisal, who struck me as the most interesting character.
And I'll probably watch the damn thing again in a year or two.


"...and I long for the vanished gardens of Cordoba..."

M.P.

Anonymous said...

Matthew

There were three post Moore CB stories in MWOM before Captain Britain monthly was launched. Craddock scripted two and Mike Collins the third, before Delano kicked off with CB. Monthly #1. Davis was obviously plotting these and I do recall he considered it a favour to Moore to back Delano. Obviously this is all pre-Miracleman fall out.

Being fair to all involved, these stories were all pretty decent (albeit not at the Moore level). I guess we’ll get to them over the next few months. I didn’t go cold on these characters until Excalibur, by which time the Moore era had well and truly been flogged.

DW

Anonymous said...

Fred the Basset comic!!! Fav here in Chicago (presumably US wide since part of Tribune Syndicate).

Charlie misses newspaper comics!

Anonymous said...

A pedant writes -
I am pretty certain Alan Davis wrote at least the second post-Moore Captain Brexit story, 'Tea & Sympathy'.

Not sure about the first one - I assumed at the time Craddock wrote it because of the credits, but iirc those don't specify what him and Davis actually did. For all I know Craddock's name might just be there for the lettering! I would assume at the very least Davis plotted 'Bad Moon Rising' - its not exactly a complex story.

Anyway, the fall off in quality from the previous writer is (unsurprisingly) very noticeable. Its like the strip is back in the Dave Thorpe era, but worse.

On the plus side though, we did at least get the return of the Moore/Davis Marvelman - only the second episode of the year so far! - in Warrior #20, with 'A Little
Peace of Heaven', and the next issue our hero would finally catch up with Gargunza (I couldn't wait to see how that was going to work out...)

Warrior #20 scored a hat trick, as besides Marvelman it also included V for Vendetta AND the Bojeffries Saga. The second part of 'Raoul's Big Night Out' would be my fave of the three. That story was brilliant.

Can't say I was impressed by Dez Skinn's solo outing for Big Ben, the man with no time for crime.

-sean

Steve W. said...

MP, I've never seen Footloose at all but I have, as you suspected, seen Splash just the one time.

Matthew, thanks for the praise. :)

Colin Jones said...

I've been watching a clip of the chilling scene in the original Stepford Wives when Joanna (Katherine Ross) finally meets her robot replacement with its' black, soulless eyes. There was no happy ending in the original film, Charlie!

Colin Jones said...

Suella Braverman pulls out of Tory leadership race shocker!! Will she defect to Reform UK??

Anonymous said...

Disappointed Suella is not standing for Tory leader. She is definitely the craziest.
Ladbroke's have Kemi Bad-Enoch as favourite, at 7-4. I guess she's mad enough?

Anyhow, mentioning Big Ben above has reminded me that at this point Marvel UK were publishing a Thing weekly.
Here's a cover gallery -

https://www.comics.org/series/69819/covers/

Big Ben is a weird subtitle for a Thing comic, isn't it? Has anyone ever called the Thing that, before or since?

I wonder if it was part of the fall out from the Marvelman special SezDez published late the previous year? Maybe Marvel UK were trying to get their own back by asserting a trademark that would be pre-empt a Warrior character?

They didn't have bothered.

-sean

Anonymous said...

*They needn't have bothered.
Don't know how that happened. Duh.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Footloose was yet one more film, seemingly popular at that time, of the theme “we know better than the ‘adults’ in the room.” FLASH DANCE, BREAKIN…, FOOT LOOSE… others?

Matthew McKinnon said...

MP -
No, I've never ever felt the urge to watch Footloose or Splash again.
I read the book by the editor of 'Footloose' and he had some really good stories about bits and pieces in that movie. But I still wasn't tempted.

Charlie -
You had Fred Bassett in the US?! How strange. I can't imagine anything more parochially British. Did you get the cartoon TV series as well?

I've just looked up Fred Bassett on Wikipedia and my god, it's STILL RUNNING. I had no idea. I thought it would have faded away by now for sure.

Sean -
The post-Moore writing on CB was terrible, but there's one really good story coming up in Captain Britain magazine issue 4. But we'll get to that later.

I still laugh at the line 'they come over here, they eat our women, they sleep with our food...' to this day.

I wish I'd held on to all my old copies of Captain Britain Monthly. I sold them for pennies in the mid-90s and they're worth quite a bit now.

Anonymous said...

Yep!!! We had all the great UK strips: Fred Basset and Andy Capp! Capp even was used to promote “hot fries” a french fry looking snack chip. Man.. Id laugh nonstop at the Capp paperbacks!

Charlie

Anonymous said...

Ooh, careful Matthew - you were getting pretty close to talking up Jamie Delano there (;

My recollection is that Delano basically scripted Davis' stories in the Captain Brexit monthly, and he did a pretty good job. I mean, the stories aren't great, but they move along more readably than the ones that came just before - in MWOM - or the Davis' solo stuff afterwards.
Mind you, you could say something similar about Claremont's continuation with Davis, in Excalibur.

Thanks for the heads up on the CB monthlies having resale value, as I think I still have the first half dozen.
The subject of Marvel UK titles being worth something now in the US came up here recently. Frankly it baffled me. I can see how Daredevils and the MWOM issues that included the Moore-era CB would have been sought after, at least til the reprints finally appeared. But otherwise...
I guess the old weeklies might have some exotic appeal to Americans, but even so it's hard to see why they'd want to spend much after actually getting hold of any.

Perhaps its the result of Steve Does Comics' impact on the global Marvel fanbase...?

-sean

Anonymous said...

Like Steve, I never saw FOOTLOOSE, saw SPLASH just once. That seems proper.

And Colin — yes, I remember the ending of STEPFORD WIVES as being creepy as hell, with Katharine Ross meeting her robotic replacement with those all-black eyes and enormous bosoms just visible beneath her diaphanous gown (because men).

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Sean, Matthew

I actually sold my CB run last year. Most issues of Marvel Super Heroes monthly, Daredevils, MWOM monthly and Captain Britain monthly. I sold due to down sizing but they did better than expected on Australian ebay. The buyer then asked what else I had for sale, and bought a complete run of Warrior plus various early Alan Moore items. I just checked, and still no sellers regret ;-) I do have complete scans of most Marvel UK issues, which fortuitously remain available online.

I checked and Alan Davis (rather than Steve Craddock) did script next month’s Tea and Sympathy. Presumably Davis was plotting the stories, while Delano and others scripted in the classic Marvel method. CB issue 4, is actually another Mike Collins script and we’ll, no doubt, discus further when we reach it.

DW

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen Footloose, or Splash, b.t. That seems more proper.

Anyway, good news - in case anyone hasn't heard yet, as part of the effort to plug the £20bn black hole in the public finances, the new British government has scrapped the tunnel under Stonehenge.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jq8pxg0weo

-sean

Anonymous said...

I was just checking out how much copies of Captain Britain were going for on Ebay, and Jayzis - some joker is offering the first three issues of the original weekly for £2000!!!
Good luck with that, mate.

-sean

Anonymous said...

#@%* me, a US dealer is asking about the same for just #1. Admittedly it is slabbed, but still... presumably the 'Best Offer' will be quite a bit less.
Or has the world gone mad?

-sean

Colin Jones said...

Labour will also means-test the winter fuel payment for pensioners which Kemi Badenoch suggested a year or so ago. I normally can't stand her but she was right on this occasion. Cue GB News, Talk TV and right-wing blogs ranting about evil Labour stealing money from "struggling" pensioners who in reality have money to burn.

I think Robert Jenrick will be the next Tory leader as he's right-wing enough to appeal to the Tory membership but not crazy right-wing so as to make the Tories unelectable. He's also white and the Tories must wonder if a certain section of their base will refuse to vote for a black woman should Badenoch be leader. How many Tory voters went to Reform UK because Sunak was a Hindu of Indian heritage? Quite a few I'll bet (this comment would be deleted if I'd written it on The Guardian opinion website). Anyway Kemi Badenoch would be a terrible Tory leader as she's arrogant and has zero empathy and loses her temper in interviews.

Anonymous said...

Stonehenge tunnel aside, I don't think doing the Cameron/Osborne Austerity thing is a good look for the Labour government, Colin.

-sean

Anonymous said...

sean:
Hang on — because you all were discussing the Moore, Davis and Delano Captain Britains i thought you meant those were the ones going for stupid prices on eBay — i mean, that would be silly too — but are you saying someone’s trying to get that much money for the first few Chris Claremont/Herb Trimpe issues? That’s completely bananas.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Yes, b.t., believe it or not, the Claremont/Trimpe issues.
(We were discussing the Moore, Davis, Delano CB but search 'Captain Britain' and you inevitably get listings for the old weekly too)

-sean

Colin Jones said...

What's happened to the SDC comments page? It looks different.

Steve W. said...

It looks the same to me, Colin.

Anonymous said...

The comments page looked different this morning, Steve (at least for me too). But its back to the normal format now.

-sean

Matthew McKinnon said...

It looks the same to me now but has occasionally looked different.

Also my last comment from a few days back has now disappeared. Very odd stuff going on.