Tuesday, 13 November 2018

The Marvel Lucky Bag - November 1978.

There are some people who you start to think are going to buck the trend of history and find a way to live forever.

Stan Lee was one of them.

But, sadly, even, "The Man," had to go eventually and that departure does provoke a genuine sense of loss.

Whatever the endless and ultimately unwinnable arguments about who did and didn't create what at Marvel, there's no doubt about one thing; Lee was the voice of Marvel. He was what gave the company a public persona that was hipper, cornier, deeper, more vibrant, human and dynamic than those of its rivals. And, in tying all those 1960s Marvel mags together, with his vision of what a super-hero should be - tormented by inner turmoil and cursed with feet of clay - he created a sense that all Marvel characters lived in the same universe and could bump into each other at any moment; and that you could bump into them too, if you ever happened to visit New York.

It was an approach that not only helped Marvel establish comic book industry dominance by the 1970s but also went on to give it cinematic dominance, decades later.

The truth is the comic book as an art form never had a better salesman. Even people who've never read a Marvel comic, and never will, know of Stan Lee and the heroes that he and artists like Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko created.

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There's no doubt about it, Stan Lee and his collaborators created more successful comics than it's possible to shake a Skrull at but it's the second Tuesday of the month and that means it's time for me to take a look at what some of Marvel's less successful titles were doing in the issues cover-dated this month of forty years ago.

Black Panther #12, the agents of Kiber

Hooray! The Black Panther's up against the Agents of Kiber!

No, I have to admit it, I don't have a clue who they are but they sort of look like evil counterparts to the astronauts in Jack Kirby's version of 2001, so they have both my interest and intrigue aroused.

Invaders #34, the Destroyer

The Invaders gets plenty of abuse on this site but it always seems to get included in this feature, whereas plenty of other titles don't.

I can't help feeling it's because it always had more intriguing covers than a lot of those other books could muster.

Apparently, in this one, the Destroyer becomes an honorary Invader and the gang head back to America to fight that pesky rapscallion Master Man.

But what on Earth is Union Jack's advertised new super-power? Only a month ago, he gained the powers of Thor. He must be getting fed up of acquiring new super-powers, at this rate.

Machine Man #8

I've no idea what happens in this one but I've not featured Machine Man in ages, so I thought I'd best include him.

Marvel Comics, Kiss

It's what we've all been crying out for! Kiss get their very own Marvel comic!

Admittedly, I didn't cry out for it. The only reason I'd ever heard of Kiss in the 1970s was because of Marvel giving them their own comic. If their music ever got played on British radio, it totally bypassed me.

They did, of course, make more of a UK chart impact in the early to mid 1980s.

Not that they were likely to care too much about that. Judging by that cover, they were too busy having to deal with Ming the Merciless.

The Astonishing Spider-Man, Marvel Treasury Edition #18

It's something of a surprise to me to discover that Marvel Treasury Editions were still going in late 1978. I always see them as a mid 1970s thing.

In this edition, Spidey teams up with the X-Men to tackle Morbius. I can't help feeling that's an awful lot of people to tackle just one vampire.

Elsewhere, Spidey and Werewolf by Night join forces to take on someone called Moondark who wants to take over San Francisco.

After that, Spidey and Ghost Rider team up to take on a foe who I think might be the Orb.

And, finally, Spidey and Iron Fist unite to tangle with Drom.

Was he the man who lived his life backwards? If so, it's the only one of these tales I've ever read, thanks to Iron Fist's adventures appearing in the pages of Marvel UK's Avengers mag.

The observant reader will, of course, have already realised that all of these tales are from Marvel Team-Up, meaning this is really a Marvel Team-Up Treasury Edition, even if Marvel's Powers-That-Be aren't admitting to it.

Red Sonja #12

Red Sonja's comic may not have pulled up any trees and have been somewhat short-lived but you have to love a warrior woman.

You also have to love that cover by Frank Brunner.

Devil Dinosaur #8

It's more Kirby weirdness for the world's pinkest dinosaur.

According to Walt Simonson, this cover was the only time in his career that he ever got to ink the work of Jack Kirby.

Alice in Wonderland, Marvel Classics Comics #35

Marvel gives us its take on Alice in Wonderland, a book that I still don't think I've ever read. Nor have I ever managed to sit all the way through any cinema or TV adaptations.

16 comments:

dangermash said...

Yes, those Treasury Edition stories do sound like MTU reprints.

The Spider-Man/X-Men teamup is from MTU#4 and wa some of the first (if not the first) stories to be reprinted in the U.K. Spider-Man comic after it went into landscape format. I definitely read it there. I've probably said it before but MTU#4 continued directly on from MTU#3, which was Spider-Man and the torch vs Morbius and it got my goat that MTU#3 was only reprinted sometime later, probably as a "Spider-Man Teamup" in the U.K. Spider-Man comic.

Anonymous said...

It crossed my mind that choosing three comics written and drawn by Jack Kirby might be some kind of subconscious comment on the recent news Steve, but I expect they were just the most interesting covers this month in '78.

Of all Kirby's brilliant 70s work, Machine Man was the one I just couldn't get into for some reason; great idea, but probably he just wasn't the right person to do stories about a super being trying to be boring and normal.
That was his last Panther - the agents of Kiber were androids btw - and after next month there were no more Marvel comics by Kirby at all. End of an era.

-sean

Jared said...

According to Bob Wiacek that cover of Machine Man #8 was the only time in his career he got to ink Jack Kirby!

Killdumpster said...

Steve-
Very good eulogy for Stan the Man. As he would have said, "in a nutshell".

I loved the Treasury Editions, but the only ones I got that weren't newsstand beat-up were the first 2 Spideys ( the very first one, and the one with Sinister Six on the cover, which I got for B-Day/Xmas gifts) and the 2nd issue with the FF. Great way to read early back issues missed.

I remember my dad would go through a hand full of comics I just bought, pull out Red Sonja, and say "Oh, the evil comic books". Then read it cover to cover! Lol!

I believe I told you about Stan hosting a "heroes fashion show" on the Mike Douglas Show that featured a knockout redhead in Red Sonja garb.

Think the KISS book supposively had the band's blood in the ink. I never was a fan, as I was still into Alice Cooper and thought they were a poor excuse of a copy.

"Let's sell some INVADERS! He does the guts, lettem do the cover!"

"But Bullwinkle, that trick NEVER works!"

Anonymous said...

No idea what he had to say about it, but by any chance was that Black Panther #12 cover the only time in his career Tom Palmer got to ink Jack Kirby?

-sean

Killdumpster said...

As far as Alice in Wonderland, Steve-

Have you ever seen the film were a rat builds a fire on her head and she turns into a doll when she shrinks, in stop-motion animation? Bizzare!

Then there's the musical-porno with a Playboy playmate. Its also bizzare, in it's own way. Lol.

Killdumpster said...

Yikes!

Here I am, a "Yankee", and no one noticed that the Treasury cover was a send-up to McCartney/Wings "Band On The Run" album cover?

Charlie Horse 47 said...

W.t.h. is going on in my life with the word "rapscallion?"

I may have heard it once - twice in my entire 57 years on this planet and in the last week I've heard it a dozen.

First, it is in Mark Twain's book "The Adventures of Huck Finn" several times. Given this was written like 150 years ago, I figured it was an old-timey word. I'm reading it now, to say "I did it."

Then, I'm watching a French film (true story) called "The African Doctor" set in the 1970s on Netflix. The subtitle uses the word so I figure the translator was just trying to fart higher than his butt.

Now, Steve uses it... naturally in conjunction with the Invaders!

What the hell is going on? What does this mean Alfie? Should I buy a lotto ticket or something???

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Today, "rapscallion" is still commonly used as a synonym for "blackguard," "scoundrel," and "miscreant." "Rascallion" is still around as well, but it’s very rare.

Steve - pray tell how you came up with that word? Were you reading Huck Finn too?

(Are you UK guys familiar with Mark Twain and Huck Finn? I am reading it b/c I keep passing through the town of Hannibal, Missouri on the Missississippippissippi River enroute to visit my kids at the University adn taht iw where Mark Twain grew up.)

Anonymous said...

Interestingly (or perhaps not) Treasury edition #9 was a Giant Superhero Team-Up but didn't reprint any issues of marvel Team Up. I think the Astonishing Spider-man featured photos from the TV series and so it was likely a bit of opportunist marketing ala MWOM's no.1 TV sensation tickle.

The Comics Journal have run an obituary for Stan, which I found, given their history with Kirby, balanced and nicely written.

DW

Anonymous said...

The only KISS song I've ever heard of is "Crazy Crazy Nights" from 1987 - that was definitely their biggest UK hit.

Steve, it's a pity you didn't include the very next Treasury Edition (#19) which also came out in late 1978. It was a Conan edition and featured "Iron Shadows In The Moon" in colour. "Iron Shadows" is my favourite of Robert E. Howard's Conan stories (originally called "Shadows In The Moonlight" in 1934) and I first encountered the story thanks to that 1978 Conan Treasury Edition. Apparently the Treasury Editions continued until 1981 but I never saw any more after the Conan one.

Charlie, we UK guys are definitely familiar with Mark Twain and Huckleberry Finn.

Redartz said...

A very nice tribute to Stan; thanks Steve.

And thanks for pointing out that Kirby/Simonson cover; I had no idea...

Oh, and Charlie; I call our dog rapacallion (it's a nickname, her name is actually Dynah; named after Dinah Lance, the Black Canary)...

Steve W. said...

Dangermash, from what I can remember, Marvel UK seemed to reprint Marvel Team-Up stories in a fairly random manner.

Sean, picking those Kirby covers wasn't pure coincidence. I did feel I should give Jolly Jack a bit of coverage at the same time as acknowledging Stan.

I'm afraid I can neither confirm nor deny the Tom Palmer/Kirby thing.

Jared, it was clearly a month for unique inking feats.

Thanks, KD. The only Treasuries I had were the one that featured the Avengers debuts of the Panther, Yellowjacket, Vision and Valkyrie, the Hulk one that featured Doc Samson's origin, the Conan one which featured Red Nails, and Superman vs Spider-Man.

As for those films, I've never seen either of them but they both sound like life-changing experiences.

I don't believe I totally failed to notice the Band on the Run homage. I think Spidey being above the others, instead of on the ground with them, made me miss it.

Charlie, life loves to tease us with such strange coincidences. I used, "Rapscallion," purely because it was the first word that popped into my head.

Mark Twain is very well known in Britain and I've read both Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. They're both great books.

DW, thanks for the Treasury Edition and Comics Journal info.

Colin, all I can say is keep an eye out for this feature in January...

Thanks, Redartz, and thanks for your heart-felt tribute to him on Back in the Bronze Age.

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Devil Dinosaurs was a tough read, a real slog... Picked it up as one of Marvel's $1 reprints they've been doing the past year.

Like you I've never read Alice. Never caught my interest. Not sure how it got to be so acclaimed. Has anyone out there read it?

Russ said...

KD, you may or may not know that Red Sonja on the Mike Douglas show was Wendy Pini: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9wRii6aiUk

Killdumpster said...

Russ-
Wendy Pini of Elfquest?! Hokey Smokes!