Sunday, 9 July 2023

Forty years ago today - July 1983.

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Let us leap from the cliffs of Nostalgia and see what treats we bang our heads on when we land upon the beckoning shores below.

Daredevil #196, Wolverine

Daredevil teams up with Wolverine, in an attempt to prevent Bullseye being smuggled out of the country but soon finds himself repulsed by his new ally's eagerness to butcher his foes.

Iron Man #172, Firebrand and Captain America

Things are getting so bad for Tony Stark - thanks to his drunkenness - that Rhodey tries to get Captain America to have a word with him.

Unfortunately, he might not live long enough to receive that pep talk, as Firebrand is back and has set fire to the building Stark's currently discombobulated himself inside.

The Amazing Spider-Man #242

From what I can remember, the Mad Thinker's still in jail and reached the conclusion that Spider-Man must have a special sense which warns him of danger.

Having decided this is the key to making his own predictions more accurate, the villain telepathically sets one of his androids on the hero, in an attempt to study him in action and learn his secret.

The Spectacular Spider-Man #80

I do believe this is the one in which J Jonah Jameson goes completely mad and, in order to show Marla he still has the reporting instincts of his youth, investigates corruption down on the docks.

Needless to say, every man and his dog tries to kill him, along the way. Needless to say, Spider-Man secretly helps him out whenever he needs it.

I'm assuming this story was inspired by the Daredevil yarn, from not too long ago, in which Foggy Nelson went off to investigate New York's criminal underworld.

Not, of course, that I would ever accuse Spider-Man in this era of borrowing ideas from Daredevil.

Captain America #283

Viper's captured Cap and Nomad and has a balloon-based plan to spread the Bubonic Plague across America!

Fortunately, the dynamic duo have an unlikely ally in the Constrictor who doesn't fancy living in a world ravaged by the Black Death.

The Uncanny X-Men #171

It's good news for all X-Men fans, as Rogue joins the team!

It's not such good news for everyone else, as no one in the gang wants her near them - especially Ms Marvel who just wants to knock her block off.

Sadly, for them all, they're overruled by Professor X and, so, an X-Man she becomes.

Meanwhile, Storm's descent into darkness continues...

Thor #333, Dracula

Can it be? Can Dracula have turned Sif into a vampire? And can the lord of the undead be a match for Thor, now that he has the blood of an Asgardian goddess in his veins?

Here's where we find out, although I must report that, even with the blood of an Asgardian in his veins Drac's still not a match for Thor, and the story does basically nothing with Sif having become a vampire.

Conan the Barbarian #148

Much as I love John Buscema, that's not one of the best covers he's ever produced.

Inside, the barbarian stumbles across a town where a plague keeps turning people into trees.

And it's not long before Conan himself becomes distinctly deciduous! However, I must confess I can't remember just how he turns himself back into a person again.

Fantastic Four #256, Annihilus

By all sorts of Reed Richards style scientific gobbledygook, the Fantastic Four escape death in the Negative Jone and inflict the fate upon Annihilus that he would have had befall upon them.

Sadly, it's not in time for Alicia who's had a good knocking about from the villain. And, meanwhile, just what's happened to Franklin?

The Avengers #233

It's a cross-over with this month's Fantastic Four, as the world's mightiest super-team battles to penetrate an energy-neutralising force field that's been flung up around the Baxter Building, by Annihilus.

They finally succeed in their efforts but it's an attempt that leaves the Vision in a seemingly lifeless heap.

The Incredible Hulk #285, Zzzax

Still out to rebuild his life as a scientist, Bruce Banner sets about constructing a new lab for Stark Industries but, unknown to anyone, one of the brand new parts contains Zzzax - and only the Hulk can stop him!

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

1.) Terrible Colossus - tiny head with no neck, yet giant, over-sized fists!

2.) Viper doesn't resemble Viper, apart from the green outfit.

3.) Do Daredevil's readers really need to have Wolverine identified for them? He was pretty famous, by then.

4.) By this time, improvements in Iron Man's armour meant he could easily trash former foes, like Blizzard, Whiplash & the Melter - even when teamed up. So, with those improvements, surely old foe Firebrand's a pushover, too. Or are his blasts hotter than Melter's?

Phillip

Anonymous said...

When Conan seems to have started getting story ideas from old issues of Lois Lane -
www.comics.org/issue/24442/cover/4/
- you know it's not a good a month at Marvel.

Its just as well DC gave us Ronin #1, the double size Brave & the Bold #200 drawn by Dave Gibbons, and Blackhawk #260 with Howard Chaykin showing off his new duotone style (and a story drawn by Alex Toth)...

-sean

Matthew McKinnon said...

"Look! Look at Wolverine's claws! They seem to be coming out of the palm of his hand, and that's WRONG!"

Such was the tone of the letters page in DD the next month, when a single colouring error on the cover [see just where his hand meets the logo] set fandom aflame.

It is a crap cover though - looks like it was dashed off in an hour or so.

I am very happy because I've just pre-ordered the Marvel Masterworks hardcover that covers DD 192-203. They are not outstanding issues, but I have very fond memories of 192-197, and my copies are old and falling apart and it's the first time they've ever been reprinted.

Also - Walt Simonson guests on X-Men, so they all have massive thunder-thighs and tiny heads. Bob Wiacek is not the ideal inker for Simonson, but it's OK.

Even in the face of what looks like a Sienkiewicz Thor cover, I'm going for the Avengers, because I'm a sucker for negative space.

Anonymous said...

Firebrand’s first appearance anywhere since around Iron Man 50-ish?

ASM sounds a Lot like AI today via learning from other’s behavior?

Does that Cap cover acknowledge Steranko, I hope?’

Anonymous said...

Firebrand was reprinted, much more recently, in Cap America Weeklies # 7 & # 8 !

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

Dracula appears to have a beard on that Thor cover and his hair and clothes look different from the 'Tomb Of Dracula' days. A few years ago Dracula turned up in 'Deadpool' and this time Drac was sporting a blond pony-tail and ear-rings!

Anonymous said...

That's how Sienkiewicz drew Dracula, Colin, with a goatee and change of clothes.

After the Sink drew him in those X-Men comics, Drac regularly had a goatee, although otherwise wore his old Tomb of Dracula gear. Not that I know for sure what he looked like inside that Thor comic, but I do remember thats how he appeared in Dr Strange, in that storyline that got rid of vampires from the Marvel universe, which can't have been too long afterwards.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Even forty years later the 'lets make Bullseye more like Wolverine' idea still reeks of marketing gouge. This is the last of the proper Klaus Janson issues, and therefore, the last which retains any feel of the Miller era. For a few years, at least. Also, being fair to the marketing team, Dave Sim will shortly pull the same trick in three consecutive issues of Cerebus.

X-men was ok, mainly because we get to see Carol Danvers plant one on Rogue's kisser. Simonson's art is a bit rushed but ok. The bigger issue is Madelyn Prior didn't look identical to Byrne's Jean Grey to make the whole clone suggestion work.

I'm not sure fifteen year old DW completely got Ronin on first read, but boy did it look great. X-men suddenly seemed very last year...

DW

Anonymous said...

*sufficiently identical

Steve W. said...

That Lois Lane cover popped into my head too, Sean. I have to say Lois's cover did it a lot better.

Phillip, in this period, Tony Stark's too drunk to be Iron Man. Therefore, Rhodey's filling in for him but doesn't have much experience with the armour and, so, struggles to dispatch even fairly routine foes.

Colin Jones said...

Sean, I was completely unaware of Dracula having a goatee and I definitely didn't know that all vampires had disappeared from the Marvel Universe. They came back I assume? They must have done as there were vampires in that Deadpool story I mentioned!

Anonymous said...

Steve, I have to say I was somewhat surprised you didn't mention that Lois cover yourself - clearly something of a Steve Does Comics fave, having appeared on this blog more than once - in the post (;

DW, did y'all not like Rogue then sugah?

-sean

Anonymous said...

Colin, yes, vampires did return to the Marvel universe at some point (possibly also in Dr Strange, in the 90s). I was shocked that a continuity-wide story development that they said would be permanent didn't stick.

-sean

Anonymous said...

That X-Men cover caption's too similar to X-Men # 139:

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?q=uncanny%20x-men%20%20139

Phillip

Charlie Horse 47 said...

What is a "Pom," asks Charlie?

As in the Aussie called the Brit fans at the cricket match a bunch of Poms?

I keep coming up with the Pomegranate drink "Pom" but I'm sure that's not the intent, lol.

(One really can learn a bunch of interesting but useless stuff at the UK's Talk SPort, lol. Or as my dad still stays, "That and 10 cents will get you a cup of coffee kid.")

Colin Jones said...

Phillip, I noticed that too but I think it's meant to be an ironic version of #139 because Rogue is being attacked by her own team-mates.

Colin Jones said...

Charlie, if you google pomsaustralia you'll find various explanations for "pom".

Anonymous said...

How did Dracula grow a new goatee? I thought vampires couldn't grow hair...anymore. They're dead.
I'm sure I've read that somewhere.
Maybe the pertinent question is why...
As far as Conan turning into a tree, maybe he shoulda just went with it and let it happen. I mean, it's not like life as a human had been treating him all that great, notwithstanding the wine and wenches.
I mean, if I had to fight a different horrible monster every month, I might wanna be a tree.
I have a high-strung nervous personality and I couldn't handle that kinda pressure very long.
How bad could it be?

M.P.

B Smith said...

"When Conan seems to have started getting story ideas from old issues of Lois Lane..."

Lois Lane? Try "The Great Vegetable Rebellion" episode of "Lost In Space"!

Anonymous said...

Charlie

Yes Pom or Pommie (as in F off you Pommie b@st@rd or we're going to smash the poms) is the widespread Australian term for the English. There's no definitive origin but popular culture assumes it is derived from pomegranate berries which have bright red skin, as did the recently arriving English, to Australia, in the pre-sunscreen days. Alternatively it's an acronym of Prisoner of Mother England, which may have been used to refer to the convicts, back in the day. I suspect it may actually come from Pompey, being an old term for a naval prison at Portsmouth, which was the last place most of the Australian-bound convicts saw as they left Blighty.

The term is widely used, and usually without prejudice however, like most things, delivery is everything. In our woke world, its still permitted without fear of cancellation because, well frankly, us English deserve it ;-)

DW

Anonymous said...

Sean

I'm reticent towards Rogue (although rather liked Anna Paquin in the movies) but I thought it was a great visual scene. We know Rogue previously stole Carol Danver's Kree powers. We know Carol subsequently became seriously OP as Binary. We know Rogue is in the Xavier house. We see Carol arrive and stroll through the front door. We then see Rogue literally flying into space have scored a serious blow to the chin. It was a capriciously gratuitous piece of violence, wholly appropriate given the historical storyline.

DW

Anonymous said...

I'm rather embarrassed to admit I was following the X-Men at this point.
What the hell was wrong with me?

M.P.

Anonymous said...

Colin - You're probably right. I saw repetition as, having done Dark Phoenix, the X-Men then tried 'Dark Storm', in the post-Byrne era. That stuck in my mind, as repetition/a lack of new ideas. Also, Sean mentioning the Conan cover repeating a Lois Lane cover may have influenced my thinking!

B - The tree transformation motif was also in 'Forces in Combat' # 36, in 'Chamber of Horrors' (in the USA its title was different), when somebody injected themselves with Red Wood tree sap, in the hope of becoming immortal!

Also, in Captain America Weekly # 3, in Dazzler, the Enchantress turns her suitor into a tree, on a whim, just because she's so capricious!

M.P. - Female pharaohs stuck beards under their chins, to appear more masculine. Maybe the reason why Drac's grown a goatee's a masculinity crisis!

DW - I'd always thought us whingeing poms got the name because British/English sailors ate apples ( French "pomme") onboard ships, to prevent scurvy. Your explanations are far more interesting!

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

Phillip, I thought they ate limes to avoid scurvy hence the word "limeys".

Colin Jones said...

The idea of being turned into a tree originally comes from the Greek legend of Apollo & Daphne. According to the legend Apollo is pursuing Daphne with the intention of raping her so Daphne calls on Zeus for help who responds by turning Daphne into a laurel tree (which seems a bit extreme - couldn't he have just whisked her away to safety?)

Colin Jones said...

The Conan story "The Frost-Giant's Daughter" was basically a re-hash of the Apollo & Daphne legend.

Colin Jones said...

Except that the Frost-Giant's daughter doesn't end up as a tree (lucky her!)

Anonymous said...

Colin - As regards "limeys", that rings a bell, from 'O'-level biology. Maybe I've conflated the two, somehow!

As regards Daphne, Greek mythology also had Myrrha, who was also transformed into a tree!

Phillip

Anonymous said...

If it helps, M.P., you weren't the only one still following the X-Men at this point. Although in my defence, I wasn't actually buying it anymore.

DW, I didn't pay much attention to the issues that established Carol as Binary (second Cockrum run - zzzzzz) and hadn't read Avengers annual #10 back then, so the 'history' didn't really come into it for me. What stands out in my mind in X-Men #171 - which I thought was a pretty good issue (allowing for the kind of comic it was) - isn't Rogue being punched through the X-mansion roof, but getting in to see Xavier and the rest of them in the first place by just knocking on the front door. That seemed like an original approach (;

They needed a new X-person to move the series on a bit, and Rogue was the best addition they ever got after Giant-Size X-Men #1 imo (admittedly a fairly low bar to clear).
Sure, Claremont's approach to characterisation - she's southern, so says 'sugah' a lot (do they really do that in the south?) - can be a bit irritating, but if that kind of thing was a deal breaker why would you even be reading the X-Men anyway?

-sean

Anonymous said...

Oh, and Simonson was a big improvement on Paul Smith.

-sean

Colin Jones said...

I've read that the clear parallels with the Apollo & Daphne myth might have been the reason why "The Frost-Giant's Daughter" was rejected for publication in 'Weird Tales' magazine in 1934 as it wasn't original enough but does that matter? It's still a great little story with wonderful descriptions of the icy landscape and the Aurora Borealis (and unlike Apollo, Conan had to defeat the Frost-Giant's two hulking sons along the way).

Colin Jones said...

On the subject of eating limes to avoid scurvy - I think it was the British who discovered the importance of Vitamin C for sailors' health but it was kept a closely-guarded secret so the Royal Navy had an advantage over Britain's enemies for as long as possible.