Sunday 10 December 2023

Forty years ago today - December 1983.

Thanks to Charlie Horse 47 and Killdumpster for their sponsorship of this post, via the magic of Patreon
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One of the stars of this week's comic book cavalcade is travelling forward in time.

We, however, will only be heading in one direction.

And that's towards yesteryear.

Captain America #288, Deathlok

Cap flings himself into the far-flung future of 1993, to find a world where all super-heroes have been bumped off and a cyborg called Hellinger is planning to wipe out what's left of humankind.

Needless to say, it only takes America's greatest hero about twenty minutes to track down and stop the villain.

With a massive amount of aid from Deathlok, of course.

Daredevil #201, the Black Widow

With Daredevil's activities severely hindered by his recent injuries, the Black Widow decides to chip in and help out when he wants to track down the mystery man who tried to assassinate Foggy Nelson.

I seem to remember the hero doing a lot of whining, about being useless, in this one.

Fantastic Four #261, the Watcher, in search of Reed Richards

Oh my God! Now what are we going to do? Someone's kidnapped Reed Richards, with the aid of an outer space beam!

Needless to say, the rest of the gang waste no time in looking for him; even seeking aid from the Watcher, along the way.

But, when they find their missing leader, it turns out he's been put on trial for saving the life of Galactus. An act that's directly led to the destruction of the Skrull homeworld.

With no doubt at all that Richards did it, it seems to be an open-and-shut case.

Surely, his execution can't now be prevented.

The Amazing Spider-Man #247

I've not one millimetre of recollection about what happens in this one but I gather the instoppable menace that is the Frog-Man is involved.

The Spectacular Spider-Man #85, Hobgoblin

I do, however, recall what happens in this book.

Because yet another fight breaks out between Spider-Man and the Hobgoblin.

And, now, the villain's got super-strength!

But the good news is our hero doesn't have to fight alone, as he now has the Black Cat on his side.

Or is that good news? Because all she manages to do is get in the way.

Thor #338, Thor vs Beta Ray Bill

Now that Beta Ray Bill has Thor's hammer - and his powers - there's a pressing need to decide which of them is most deserving of that hammer and those powers.

Thus it is that Odin sets up a contest between them to decide just who is the noblest warrior of them all.

And, quelle horreur, the sheep-faced alien wins it!

The Incredible Hulk #290, MODOK

Hooray! Romance is in the air, as MODOK transforms SHIELD agent Katherine Waynesboro into a female version of himself and, inevitably, they fall in love with each other.

Or do they? It's not long before they're at each other's throats and trying to kill each other.

Iron Man #177, the Flying Tiger

Out of work since Obadiah Stane's takeover of the Stark business empire, Rhodey decides to hire himself out as a bodyguard to the rich and powerful.

But that brings him into direct conflict with the awesome foe that is the Flying Tiger.

Luke Cage and Iron Fist put in a guest appearance, thanks to their ability to give Rhodey advice on how to become a hero for hire.

Tony Stark, meanwhile, is making some kind of move towards drying out.

The Avengers #238

The Vision finally awakes from his coma.

But that's where the good news ends, as, thanks to a link-up with Titan's controlling super-computer ISAAC, he's now smarter and more powerful than ever.

And determined to make full use of his new abilities, whether other people like it or not.

Conan the Barbarian #153

Some of us thought we'd never live to see Conan riding along on the back of a giant dragonfly but we were wrong.

All I remember of this one is the barbarian meets a woman with the unlikely name of Alhambra and she has wings. What she does with those wings and for what purpose, I cannot say.

The Uncanny X-Men #176, Cyclops vs the tentacles

It's a departure from the norm, as the issue mostly dwells on Cyclops and his wife taking a boat trip. One on which they find themselves attacked by a giant octopus.

Elsewhere, beneath the streets of New York, Callisto's moving pieces into place in her bid to gain vengeance upon Storm for deposing her as leader of the Morlocks.

53 comments:

dangermash said...

In ASM, Thunderball recovers his ball and chain (literally his ball and chain, not Mrs Thunderball) and is ready to take on Spider–Man in a half length story next month.

Why a half length story? We'll save that for next time.

Anonymous said...

But that won't be til after Christmas, dangermash. Not sure I'll be able to take the suspense...

Steve, going by the hyphen I assume that would be the Frog-Man who was basically the second Leap Frog, rather than the French Ani-Man?

-sean

Matthew McKinnon said...

I had that Daredevil. It was the really really dark, fallow period between Janson leaving and Mazzuchelli coming onboard.
In hindsight it was worth carrying on but boy it was rough.

I had that X-men, but I read it and yuck, no more Paul Smith so I bailed at that point.

Thor = amazing.

A side-note here: I recently did this year's One Month Of Disney+ to catch up on stuff. As result, I learned that Star Wars is now boring, padded TV. And that The Bear is as amazing as everyone says.

Also, I watched the 3rd Ant Man film which, whilst I didn't think it was good, was nowhere near as atrocious as people made out. Some of the design work and execution is funny and amazing.

But - and this is where is ties into this post - it features Modok, and he's rendered so poorly that it almost scuppers the rest of the film. Every shot screams 'you needed to rethink this'.

Did anyone else see it? What did you think?

Anonymous said...

Matthew - I haven't watched Ant Man 3 but, according to my brother (who has), MODOK resembled a giant baby, something the film itself poked fun at. Myself being someone who prefers a serious treatment of Marvel - for the most part - I wouldn't have appreciated that.

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

Steve, you mean DECEMBER 1983 not November 1983! Too much festive sherry perhaps?

Anonymous said...

I haven't watched Ant-Man 3 either, Matthew, but I have seen the trailer - which is the best way to appreciate the Marvel films - and it wasn't particularly impressive.
Checking out a clip of MODOK on YouTube, I have to agree he does not look good. Unlike Michelle Pfeiffer, who somehow still does!

On the subject of watching things, I just caught the latest Dr Who episode earlier.
Steve, whats the official Steve Does Comics líne on the new fella, now that we've actually seen him? Personally I was unwilling to accept Ncuti Gatwa in the part. Sorry if it offends anyone or makes me politically incorrect... but imo the Doctor should not have a 'tache!

But he kinda made it work. And I liked the no trousers look. Hope they keep that for a while.

-sean

Anonymous said...

I’m almost embarrassed to admit that I couldn’t connect with the Beta Ray Bill storyline at all. Most of my Nerd Buddies were raving about it back in the day, but I just bounced off it. Not really sure why —but have never bothered to re-visit Simonson’s run to see if maybe I’d like it better now.

The only other comic from this batch that I know I bought and read back in the day was the X-MEN. Like Matthew, I’d been digging Paul Smith’s art and felt that young JR JR’s stuff was bland and unexciting by comparison. I may have stuck with the book for another issue or two after this one but I honestly don’t recall.

Pretty sure I’d decided Byrne’s take on the FF just wasn’t to my taste by this point, and had stopped buying it.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

PS Also agree that Thor #338 was amazing, Matthew.
And I wasn't keen on John Romita Jr either. Even Paul Smith was better. Although to be fair by this point to get me interested in buying an issue of the X-Men Marvel would have to put out a double-sized issue drawn by Barry Windsor Smith...

-sean

Anonymous said...

Regrettably Charlie was not really reading comics 40 years ago.

Cyclops was married?

Tony Stark was not Iron Man?

Thor was no longer Thor. And the new one had a face like a horse or sheep. (Maybe time for a famous SDC poll? Been a few years!)

Modok!!! Straight from the pages of DC’s Black Magic 50 years ago is getting married?

I did read the Byrne FF run given all the encouragement from SDC and loved it! But I don’t recall anything resembling the Marvel Checklist where I might have heard of all these going ons.

And when did the word balloons disappear?! Clearly between 50 and 40 years ago. Was it a conscious decision?

Charlie Horse 47 said...

B.T - I tried to read Beta Ray Bill, three decades hence, and really couldn't find the magic that the others had. But I tried...

COLIN - Me and the missus started putting up the xmas decorations. And I turned on my 33 year old transistor radio which also includes short wave to the xmas station 99.3 FM. And voila - the first song was Brenda Lee's Rocking Around the Xmas Tree and the second was Wham's Last Christmas. No Johnny or Sir Macca but hey, it was all fun!

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Do we need a famous SDC poll (which hasn't been seen for a few years now ?) to determine whether Beta Ray Bill looks like a Sheep head or a Horse head?

Indeed the shape of his head was one reason I could not engage with that story line. The first issue I thought, "Surely this is not Beta Ray Bill? An animal functioning as a human?"

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Curious Charlie wonders if Black Widow becomes a regular on DD? Does she get to have her name on the mast head, like 11 years earlier when both DD and BW share the honors to the title?

And gee, how much I appreciated Colan, Palmer, Everett drawing BW as compared to this cover... She used to have that real "femme fatale" kind of thing going.

Anonymous said...

Sean:
I pretty much stopped reading all the X-Men books right around this time. I would occasionally buy some of the Annuals and “Special Issues” if they were drawn by an artist I liked (Arthur Adams, Mike Golden, Jason Pearson and as you so subtly alluded to, Barry Smith). I didn’t go back to reading X-Men on a regular basis until Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely’s NEW X-MEN in the early Aughts.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Checking out Mike’s invaluable “Newsstand” for that month (R.I.P., Mike), I see I’d drastically cut back on my Marvel purchases by the Fall of ‘83. In addition to X-MEN 176, I bought four other Marvel titles, — but three of em were reprints:

KULL 3
SHIELD 1(Steranko on Baxter paper)
MARVEL TALES 158 (Ditko Spidey)
MICRONAUTS SPECIAL EDITION 1

I also bought several Pacific Comics:

ALIEN WORLDS 5
ELRIC 4
SILVERHEELS 1
RAVENS AND RAINBOWS (Jeff Jones reprints)

Just a few DCs:
CAMELOT 3000 #9
THRILLER #2
SWORD OF THE ATOM #4

and from First, my favorite issue on sale that month:
AMERICAN FLAGG #3

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Checking out Mike’s invaluable “Newsstand” for that month (R.I.P., Mike), I see I’d drastically cut back on my Marvel purchases by the Fall of ‘83. In addition to X-MEN 176, I bought four other Marvel titles, — but three of em were reprints:

KULL 3
SHIELD 1(Steranko on Baxter paper)
MARVEL TALES 158 (Ditko Spidey)
MICRONAUTS SPECIAL EDITION 1

I also bought several Pacific Comics:

ALIEN WORLDS 5
ELRIC 4
SILVERHEELS 1
RAVENS AND RAINBOWS (Jeff Jones reprints)

Just a few DCs:
CAMELOT 3000 #9
THRILLER #2
SWORD OF THE ATOM #4

and from First, my favorite issue on sale that month:
AMERICAN FLAGG #3

b.t.

Anonymous said...

b.t., The only Marvels I got this month were Thor #337 and er... Magik #1. And after saying I wasn't interested in the X-Men! How embarassing. Actually, I'm not sure why I got it - probably because it was drawn by John Buscema and Tom Palmer. Not good (I did not get #2)

As for the rest -

DC: Sword of the Atom #4, Green Lantern #171 (Gil Kane cover, Alex Toth inside, with Dave Gibbons GL Corps back up - nice). I read Camelot 3000 #9 as well, because my brother got that. And I think that months Detective and Batman.

Special mention: Gil Kane also did the cover for Supergirl #14. If anyone doesn't know why that gets a special mention, clearly you aren't properly in tune with Steve Does Comics! (Unfortunately Carmine Infantino was the interior artist; what next for the Maid of Might - Frank Robbins?)
And I believe this month's Saga of the Swamp Thing #19 was Marty Pasko's last issue, so it kicks off 1984 with some new writer...

Pacific - Elric #4, and I definitely read Groo #6 (my brother again).

Others - American Flagg #3, which was my fave of the month too, Cerebus #57, and The Spirit #2 (Mike's World doesn't list Kitchen Sink, but a couple of months earlier they replaced their Spirit b&w mag with the first issue of a comic reprinting the post-war stories in chronological sequence).
Oh, and Warrior #16.

The independents definitely had it over Marvel and DC.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Charlie, we don't need a poll to tell us that you, b.t., and - iirc from last month - Phillip are wrong about Beta Day Bill and Simonson's Thor.

-sean

Anonymous said...

* Beta Ray Bill
#@%£ autocorrect

Matthew McKinnon said...

Sean -
Those last few issues of Swamp Thing before you know who we’re were pretty good. Bissette and Totleben were already onboard and there are some pretty far-out moments. Arcane’s insect warriors eating him alive in 19 is memorable.

Does anyone actually like Camelot 3000? I picked up a couple of issues in 1983 (though Terry Austin was probably the best possible choice) and found Bolland-inked-by -someone-else distracting, and the story not much good. I’ve tried over subsequent decades to give it another go but it refuses to stick.

BT -
I just found my old Steranko-on-Baxter reprints rummaging through a box in the loft! I’d seen some Steranko a few years earlier (an adaptation of a Harlan Ellison story in 3D) but this was my first exposure to his comics work.

Anonymous said...

Mis-aligned re-edit on that - sorry.

Anonymous said...

I think it was just X-men from Marvel, for me this month, and probably New Teen Titans. I don't think I purchased any interesting independents either. I must have been fiscally challenged at the time, as I hadn't yet started at Sainsbury's on Saturdays, which ironically then prevented my attending the Westminster Marts, at which I purchased most of my 'better' comics. Or saving up for a Commodore 64.

DW

Anonymous said...

Camelot 3000 was pretty two dimensional, Matthew, and I doubt it would be much remembered if it wasn't for Brian Bolland. Personally though, I thought Bruce Patterson did a better job on inks than Terry Austin.

The Pasko issues of Swamp Thing I read back in the day were earlier ones, when Tom Yeates was the artist. Not bad, but not especially good either - they seemed too much in the shadow of the Wrightson era, and as the character as such doesn't really interest me (and its not like Bissette and Totleben were Nestor Redondo) I never tried any more.
But seeing as you've given the later ones at least a qualified thumbs up, I'll give them a go...

-sean

Anonymous said...

DW, you didn't even have an extra bit of money because of Christmas?

-sean

Steve W. said...

Sean, unfortunately, Ncuti had to share all his scenes with Tennant and, so, didn't have much opportunity to establish himself. It seems I'm going to have to wait until the Christmas special to get any real sense of what he's about.

As for the Frog-Man, Marvel has so many amphibian-related characters that I no longer have a clue which is which.

Colin, I made exactly the same mistake with the date on the 50 years ago post, as well. Clearly, I'm a man living in the past.

Matthew, I've not seen Ant-Man 3 but I've seen clips of MODOK in it. He looks genuinely terrible and I've seen people saying it's the pivotal moment in the fortunes of the MCU, from which it's never recovered.

Dangermash, thanks for the Amazing Spider-Man info.

Anonymous said...

Sean

Thinking about it, I was probably going through my Vic 20 phase and comics took a temporary back seat. I just watched Dr. who and while all three specials were a bit bleh, I’m still looking forward to the Christmas special.

DW

Anonymous said...

Comics took a temporary back seat...? Tsk tsk, DW.
Next you'll be saying you became more interested in girls.

-sean

Colin Jones said...

Charlie, Wham! are currently at #5 on the Billboard Hot 100 - I'm puzzled why that song is quite so popular.

Brenda Lee is 79 today so she's spending her birthday at #1 in the USA.

And I heard Sir Macca's WONDERFUL CHRISTMASTIME in my local Tesco supermarket this morning!

Anonymous said...

Sean:
Ah, so that IS the GREEN LANTERN issue with Toth/Austin and Gibbons art. I thought so but wasn’t sure — Kane’s cover is kinda generic and Mike’s didn’t list the creator credits on this one (and I couldn’t be arsed to check the GCD). Anyhow, I bought that one too.

I thought CAMELOT 3000 was ill-conceived and incredibly underwhelming from the jump. I dutifully bought all 12 issues, and still have them — but God only knows when I last bothered to even look at the interior art (i have zero interest in actually re-reading them).

b.t.

Colin Jones said...

Today is exactly 50 years since Slade's MERRY XMAS EVERYBODY entered the UK singles chart at #1 (Dec 11th 1973).

Anonymous said...

Colin:
I’d never claim that “Last Christmas” is a legitimately “good” X-mas song (or even a good song, period). The super-spare synth-bop arrangement is completely at odds with the season and the lyrics are beyond banal. But i have to admit to getting a tiny bit warm n fuzzy when it comes on the radio. It triggers memories of driving around town with my girls, checking out the Xmas lights and lawn displays.

So far this year, I’ve heard Sinatra, Dean Martin, Burl Ives, Brenda Lee, Stevie Wonder and Nat King Cole several times each — Andy Williams at least three times. No Jose Feliciano or Johnny Mathis yet, but the season is young…

Heard some god-awful thing by Christine Aguilera the other day that i never EVER want to hear again. And Madonna’s obnoxiously too-cute cover of “Santa Baby”, which is just mildly terrible.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Recently, Mel & Kim's 'Rocking Around The Christmas Tree' received some opprobrium, on these pages.

Well, for 2000AD fans...

The said song's been broadcast on the Freeview Christmas music channel and - interestingly - somebody's wearing a Mekon mask, in at least 2 scenes!

I'll get my coat...

Phillip

Anonymous said...

It's a Rigellian hotshot for you, Phillip.

b.t., I think we can agree that 'Last Christmas' is not a legitimately "good" Christmas song (although I wouldn't bother with the inverted commas or be specific about Christmas myself). But really, any record that was big around this time of year sounds vaguely seasonal to me. A good example would be 'Don't You Want Me' by the Human League.

I suppose the exception is 'Another Brick In The Wall' by Pink Floyd, which I accept doesn't sound very festive. Even though it has kids singing on it.

-sean

Anonymous said...

I like Last Christmas because the song' plot is seasonally influenced, and I think the video is hilarious. Andrew's waving at the cable-car platform and George falling over in the snow, are almost Kubrick-esque. Obviously I would never have admitted such at the time.

The Housemartins' Caravan of Love is another of those songs that will always evoke Christmas, even though they weren't technically a festive tune.

DW

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was released 50 years ago this month by... duh.. BLACK SABBATH. One wonders if there are those who connect it to Xmas?

The only thing LAST CHRISTMAS has to do with Xmas is the word, lol. Replace it with any other two-syllable word like April and you can keep singing along. Granted the word Christmas is conveying a date so April would not work well with "the very next day" but replace it with a holiday, then, like "New Year."

Cheers All, Charlie.

PS - Steve why don't we get the 1983 DC grab bag like 1973?

Colin Jones said...

Phillip, I was recently watching the Mel & Kim video and I too noticed the Mekon mask but didn't the Mekon appear in Dan Dare not 2000AD? (I must admit I've never read 2000AD).

Some non-Christmas songs that make me think of Christmas just because they were big hits around that time:

MULL OF KINTYRE - Wings (1977)
I HAVE A DREAM - ABBA (1979)
SUPER TROUPER - ABBA (1980)
SAVE YOUR LOVE - Renee & Renato (1982)
ONLY YOU - Flying Pickets (1983)
THE POWER OF LOVE - Frankie Goes To Hollywood (1984)
I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU - Whitney Houston (1992)
HEAL THE WORLD - Michael Jackson (1992)

Colin Jones said...

Charlie, what about...

Last Monday I gave you my heart
But the very next day you gave it away...

It doesn't take much to change that song into an ordinary non-festive love song.

Colin Jones said...

The Mel & Kim video also features a photo of Rolf Harris - scarier than the Mekon?

As I recall, Mel Smith and Kim Wilde were deliberately billed as "Mel & Kim" which was obviously meant to be a joke considering the other Mel & Kim at the time...

Take or leave us
Only please believe us
We ain't never gonna be respectable...

Anonymous said...

Colin:
That’s a good start, but the next few lines may take some thought…

This week — I’m in Mozambique— I’ll give it to someone SPESHHULL…

b.t.

Colin Jones said...

This week I won't be meek
I'll give it to someone special...

This week new love I'll seek
I'll give it to someone special...

(any corny lyrics will do)

Anonymous said...

Colin

I remember them being billed as Kim and Mel as a pun on Mel and Kim, but the internet suggests otherwise.

Charlie

What about the line:

'Happy Christmas, I wrapped it up and sent it,
With a note saying "I love you" I meant it'?

What other holidays do you traditionally send gifts? Many songs lose any connection with Christmas if you change one word. Merry Easter Everybody by Slade? Happy Mayday (War is over) by John Lennon? The whole plot of Last Christmas revolves round the betrayal and subsequent realisation on two consecutive Christmas days. They could almost make a movie of it.

DW

Matthew McKinnon said...

Colin -
The Power Of Love had a Christmas themed video, IIRC.

Another one for me is Stop The Cavalry by Jona Lewie.

Charlie -
Last Christmas is definitely a Christmas record, and not just because it’s about Christmas, was released at Christmas, has a Christmas-themed video and a Christmas-themed cover. It’s because it sounds Christmassy, the intro sounds like sleigh bells and the synths have an echo of Macca’s Merry Christmas Everyone.

Matthew McKinnon said...

DW -

‘Snow is falling, all around us.
Children playing having fun,
Is the season, love and understanding,
Merry Easter everyone’

(And also
‘ I'm gonna find that girl underneath the mistletoe
We'll kiss by candlelight’)

Doesn’t really work.

Anonymous said...

Matthew

That's why I cunningly said 'many' songs lose any connection, rather than all...

;-)

DW

Anonymous said...

Colin -

2000AD's early days...

https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/2000AD_Annual_1978?file=2000ad1978cover.jpg

Note, how Daredevil-like the monogram (duogram?) is, in the middle of the hero's chest!

I also seem to remember the Mekon as a poster-alien in 2000AD sci-fi specials. etc.

Like you suggest, though, I imagine Dan Dare's Eagle-provenance was used to attract readers to a relatively new comic.

Phillip

Oh - in my memories, I associate 'Last Christmas' with teenage loneliness. To me, it's not a happy X-mas song.

Anonymous said...

My sentence 'Like you suggest...' is supposed to follow Dan Dare on 1978's 2000AD annual, with my Mekon comment at the end, not in the middle! Bad sleep = bad writing!

Phillip

Steve W. said...

Charlie, the 50-years-ago posts have random DC comics added because they're the 40-years-ago posts from 10 years ago, reposted and retitled. So, I thought I'd add something new to them, to compensate for them being reposts.

Anonymous said...

Charlie, I agree that 'Sabbath Bloody Sabbath' doesn't sound very Christmassy.

Colin (and Phillip) clearly neither of you have been paying enough attention to this very blog, or you'd know that the Mekon first been appeared in the galaxy's greatest comic in prog 11.

https://stevedoescomics.blogspot.com/2015/06/2000-ad-may-1977.html

-sean

Anonymous said...

*first appeared...
Duh, a poor edit there. Which kind of spoilt my air of smug condescension.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Sean - You, be smugly condescending - surely not! As regards paying attention to SDC, 2015 was before my time!

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Elton John — GOODBYE YELLOW BRICK ROAD
Queen — A NIGHT AT THE OPERA
KISS — ROCK AND ROLL OVER
ROCKY HORROR SHOW (Roxy Cast Album)
B-52s — PRIVATE IDAHO
ELO — OUT OF THE BLUE

All albums that I received as Xmas presents. I have very fond memories of listening to them on Xmas Day but they generally don’t really evoke the Seasonal Spirit to me when i listen to them now.

David Bowie — HEROES

This one does evoke the season — possibly because I first heard the title track on Bing Crosby’s last Christmas Special.

Or as George Michael might call it, Bing’s
Last Christmas SPEHHH-shull.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Phillip, you mean you haven't gone back and read old Steve Does Comics posts...?

-sean

Colin Jones said...

Sean, as I never read 2000AD I probably didn't pay much attention to the review of Prog 11 - anyway Phillip was right about the Mekon appearing in the comic.

DW, the Slade song loses any reference to Christmas if you change the word Christmas to Easter???

Are you hanging up a stocking on your wall
It's the time that every Santa has a ball
Does he ride a red-nosed reindeer...

Are you waiting for the family to arrive
Are you sure you've got the room to spare inside...

What will your daddy do
When he sees Mommy kissing Santa Claus...

I rest my case.

Colin Jones said...

Brenda Lee is #1 for a second week on the Billboard Hot 100 with Mariah Carey at #2 (just like in the UK, can't the poor girl get a break?) and Wham! at #4. The only other UK Xmas song on the Hot 100 is Sir Macca at #47.