Sunday, 8 June 2025

Forty years ago today - June 1985.

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Once more shall I shall gaze into the waters of my magic pool and see just what activities are occurring in the place that mortals know as The Past.

Thor #356 , Hercules

Remember that really old Thor story in which he tells a group of boys about a recent fight he's had with the Hulk, in order to answer their question as to which of them's the stronger?

Now we get a re-run. Except, this time, it's Hercules who's telling a group of youths about his epic fights with Thor, in order to answer their queries as to who's the stronger.

Needless to say, the crown prince of braggadocio opts to tell them he's easily defeated Thor every single time they've ever met.

Until Jarvis the butler points out to him that the nature of his young audience means there may be good cause for him to take a metaphorical dive...

Fantastic Four #279 , Dr Doom

Not for the first time, that clanking clod Doom has launched the Baxter Building - and its occupants - into space.

But - as Reed Richards starts to suspect - is it really Doom who's done it?

Or is there an impostor at large?

And might that impostor need rescuing even more than they do?

It seems that only a full-on attack on Doom's castle might yield answers.

The Uncanny X-Men #194 , Nimrod

It's bad news for the X-Men - and the Juggernaut - when Nimrod shows up, from what I assume to be the future, looking to bump off mutants wherever he finds them.

Fortunately, Rogue's on hand to batter him with every single power she can absorb from every available X-Man.

Storm, conversely, is still devoid of her powers.

And that leads her back to her former haunts in Africa...

The Spectacular Spider-Man #103

But it looks like trouble with a very small T, for our hero, when a group of precocious college kids decide to fabricate the existence of a super-villain, in order to vex and bewilder the web-slinger.

Fortunately, he's far too smart to fall victim to that kind of japery.

The Incredible Hulk #308

The Hulk's mag pulls a stunt I shall never recover from, as it reveals the lovable Puffball Collective, that's befriended the brute for all these months, is actually evil and out to lead him to his doom on a world that's been decimated by the N'Garai.

And the Collective wants to unleash them on the whole universe!

Captain America #306 , Modred

Modred is back and out to trash London - unless Marvel's greatest captains of the British and American varieties can stop him.

The Avengers #256

It's tense times for the Avengers.

And for Ka-Zar.

That's because Terminus - who I think was the giant alien who showed up in The Fantastic Four, a fair bit back - has arrived in the Savage Land and is out to lay waste to the entire area.

Meanwhile, as far as I can remember, Captain Marvel's still trapped on a spaceship in the middle of nowhere, with a bunch of unprincipled space-pirates.

Daredevil #219

It's a very odd tale, as Frank Miller returns to the strip and creates an adventure in which a mysterious man in dark glasses arrives in a small New Jersey town and sets about bringing to justice the murderers who control it.

Conan the Barbarian #171

I don't think I've ever read this, but the Grand Comics Database informs me a girl with a magic jewel foretells Conan's impending entombment in a Nemedian sarcophagus.

Exactly what he does about it, I have no idea.

He probably sets about stabbing someone or something. That usually works for him.

The Amazing Spider-Man #265, the Fox

It seems like every time we see him, the Fox is planning one last job before retiring.

And he's doing it again.

But this time, Silver Sable and her men are out to bring him to justice, and Spidey must decide just whose side he's on.

Iron Man #195

Rhodey needs to find out just why he keeps having devastating headaches.

And we all know there's only one way to do that.

And that's to visit a shaman and do spiritual quest-type stuff on an astral plane.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Looking at Avengers’ cover, it’s clear that every super team needs folks who can fly and carry others with.

Seeing Cap, all Gumby like, climbing the heightts seems to make that point.

Idk who the dude is in red who always reminds me of Legion of Superheroes Timberwolf… maybe he could?

Anonymous said...

Re that FF #279 cover - 'Doomsday Plus One!'
Even in the mid '80s comic boom I wonder if John Byrne in-jokes were really the best way of attracting new readers...

-sean

Anonymous said...

sean:
I don’t know if John Byrne in-jokes were a good way to attract new readers but speaking for myself, they were an excellent way to repel OLD readers :)

Though I have to say, pretty much all of these covers scream ‘Save your money, nerd!’ to me. Of this lot, Buscema’s blue-shirted Conan cover gets my vote for Best Cover, almost by default.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

40 years ago this week Ferris Beuller and his pals took the day off. Great movie!

Matthew McKinnon said...

Ooooh, a crap fill-in issue of Thor!
I don’t think I’ve seen that one since the 80s. Would I even have bought it at the time, since it clearly wasn’t Simonson? If I did I’ve long since sold it, and it hasn’t featured in any of the reprints I’ve bought. At least they didn’t try to mislead us by slapping a Simonson cover on it.

The only other one I picked up was the DD. I remember being excited that it was a Miller cover and story. But considerably less so after actually reading the thing. That was a feeling I’d come to associate with Miller quite a lot in later life, but he was about to enter his comics-changing hot streak now so it’s odd that this is such a damp squib.

Another atrocious X-Men cover. Was it editorially mandated that their covers now had to feature figures in motion with no background or context whatsoever? Those force lines are like a child’s drawing.

Captain Brexit appears! Does this tie in continuity-wise with the current UK stories at all?

Anonymous said...

Matthew, finally! Someone else is calling him Captain Brexit. Its about time that started catching on...
So I feel a bit bad bringing this up, but are you sure he appears in X-Men #194? The only CB connection I recall from this era of the X-Men is Jim Jaspers turning up in #200.

I think the blank background cover thing was just the way Romita Jr drew.

-sean

Anonymous said...

So I've been checking out FF #279 - Readallcomics.com is back online, hurray - and I don't much care for the story. Too reliant on the callback to FF #6, and Doombot nonsense.

The most notable thing however is the use of the n-word, which I was surprised to see in a regular a-list Marvel comic.
In general, I don't have a problem with the use of slurs in dialogue, depending on context etc - but I'm not sure about Marvel super-hero monthlies. Still, you never know, maybe Byrne will deal with the subject matter well in the next issue.
Although I have to say the last few panels in #179 with what appears to be a new Hatemonger are not promising...

-sean

Anonymous said...

I suspect Matthew was referring to Captain Britain’s appearance in Captain America, which if so, no it didn’t tie in with Marvel UK continuity (although he was, at least, in the correct uniform). I’d dropped X-men by now, but wasn’t this Nimrod character originally supposed to the Fury, and lead to an epic Jim Japser’s storyline? I think the cloudy UK rights issue ended this, along with the planned prestige reprints of the UK Jasper’s issues.

I didn’t mind this Daredevil, but it wasn’t the epic return we anticipated from Miller. Luckily that will soon arrive.

DW

Anonymous said...

I should have realized Matthew meant Captain America, DW, seeing as Captain Brexit is actually, you know, there on the cover. In my defence, you can't see the covers when reading/replying to comments, but still... Duh.

Yes, my understanding is you're correct about Claremont wanting to make Jim Jaspers a major X-villain and getting vetoed. The odd thing about that though is Nimrod already appearing in #194 - presumably in place of the Fury - even though Jaspers still turns up six months later...

-sean

Anonymous said...

Sean, I suspect Marvel felt comfortable using Jaspers as he wasn’t an Alan Moore character (and they presumed David Thorpe was unlikely to sue). If Claremont intended to introduce The Fury in #194, have him cause mayhem for six months, and then introduce Jaspers, around #200, as the super mutant behind the chaos, that would have been hugely derivative. Although, I guess The Fury was a bit ‘Days of Future Past - Sentinal’ heavy and so perhaps fair enough.

DW

Anonymous said...

sean:
Wait, what?? Byrne used the “n-word” in an issue of FF? THE “n-word”? I can’t think of a context where that would have been acceptable…

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Its used in two issues, b.t. - #278 as well as #279.
Yeah, I was really surprised to see it. You'd expect it to have become the subject of some debate over the years, right?

On context... like I wrote, I'm dubious about the use of terms like that in regular a-list Marvels, so I'm not too far from agreeing with you.
But, you know, let's give Byrne the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he came up with an insightful, hard-hitting commentary on racism in contemporary society in #280 that wouldn't have been as effective without the use of terms like that...?
Spoiler alert for next month: he didn't.

-sean

Colin Jones said...

Captain Britain is clearly one of the Liberal Elite - he's a do-gooder superhero so he must be a liberal and as the nation's champion he counts among the elite therefore he must have voted remain and doesn't deserve Sean's derogatory title of Captain Brexit! Have you ever heard Captain Britain endorsing Farage or Reform UK? Me neither. I rest my case.

Matthew McKinnon said...

There was another precedent for that word in a Marvel comic, though it was the direct sales ‘God Loves, Man Kills’ graphic novel, and the context was solid (Kitty making the X-Men’s racism subtext explicit).

That one survived a recent reprint in the Omnibus that houses it. Moore’s two uses in Miracleman didn’t.

Anonymous said...

Matthew, I think it's reasonable for Marvel Graphic Novels to have had different editorial standards to a regular super-hero comic, and that did - and does - seem fair enough in 'God Loves...'

I would have thought that would be the case with Miracleman too, and I'm surprised Marvel 'corrected' that. Especially as from a quick online search it doesn't seem like there have been any changes made to those two issues of the FF as they've appeared in collected editions over the years!

-sean

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the Black Knight was in favour of Brexit too. Probably.

-sean

Matthew McKinnon said...

Yeah. They censored the floppies, which I guess makes a sort of sense as they’re ‘comics’. But it carried over to the hardcover collections and the Omnibus (and I guess the compendium?) which was a bit odd.

Gaiman’s use of the F word was also amended to ‘fairy’, btw.

Anonymous said...

Sly Stone, RIP :(

Anonymous said...

The only comic I would have thought the M word could have been used was FF 118 or so when Thing and Torch rescue Tchalla imprisoned in “South Africa”. (That is the gist of what I recall.)

dangermash said...

First time I've seen or heard of readallcomics.com. I've been sitting here with the 1990s Marvel Masterworks, ASM 1-500 on DVD, the PPOC website and some shaky 1970s memories and now I find this!

I'm currently making my way through Thor and Iron Man in parallel (recent 50 year old Marvel UK posts are getting to me) and will start on Avengers when I get to issue 31. Might start on Spectacular Spider-Man when I get to 1977. And when U reach the end of the 1979s, I'll have to decide whether to carry on or to go to ASM 501 onwards.

So glad I’m retired. Cheers Sean.

Anonymous said...

Yes, farewell then Sly Stone.
Sadly when I went to see the Family Stone about a decade and a half ago he (inevitably) turned up late, and was disappointing. But he was impressive in his heyday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TptaHqAmvs

-sean

joecab said...

What? No comments about that terrific Spec Spidey story that was my introduction to Peter David? Even my frat brothers were impressed with that story.

Steve W. said...

Joe, I think we can only conclude that genius isn't always appreciated.