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You know what I was doing on this date in 1986?
I've no idea but let's pretend I was reading these comics.
Needless to say, a punch-up between the two gods can only be moments away.
But I do recall both heroes being worryingly happy to kill trolls in this one. Which seems somewhat out of character for them.
Granted, they've already met him, back in his Hatemonger days but, now, they get a crack at his younger self.
Anyway, it turns out it's all an illusion and they've been in the present all along and that, contrary to earlier reports, Reed Richards is still very much alive.
Well, that was all a waste of 75 cents.
Good gravy! Are we to experience no reality, this month?
But the Walmart Wolverine hasn't counted on the presence of Spider-Man!
As a result, the heroes decide they have no choice but to kill him.
As they've not even managed to slow him down at any point, it's a bit hard to see how they think they're going to achieve that.
Not that it matters because it turns out that being separated from each other has left both the monster and Bruce Banner dangerously unstable and the pair of them are going to die of their own accord if they're not reunited!
Captain America's finally got wind of the existence of Scourge the vigilante assassin who's been wiping out minor super-villains.
But can even the wing-headed wonder succeed where an entire bar filled with super-villains can't?
Then again, he has an army, a demon and a monster on his side. So, perhaps his victory isn't that surprising.
But his mind's quickly made up for him when Scourge breaks into the prison where Flash is being held - looking to kill him for being the Hobgoblin - and Spidey knows at once that he must save his friend.
I struggle to recall what happens in this one but I'm going to assume Tony Stark's out to get back at AIM for tricking him into launching their killer death-satellite for them.
Maybe there's an island involved in somewhere like South America.
Maybe there isn't.


16 comments:
Steve -knower of all comic things- why couldn’t an ANTMAN or such fly into Hulk’s ear or nose and just like expand and blow his head up?
Or have like a million ants go into them and infect him with Lymes disease? Or, just like go into his lungs and suffocate him?
Just trying to help out the BULLPEN is all. CH.
Anyone else grateful for.a few soccer-less days? Sheesh… how many hours of my last Life, the past three weeks, have been spent watching these games? Granted much of it was at work so I don’t feel like I wasted my time but still it’s a lot of hours.
Charlie -
I think the Hulk is pretty indestructible even from the inside. It would be like Ant Man trying to expand inside a concrete cell - he'd just crumple up against the walls.
Alternately, even if the Hulk's head did explode, canon suggests it would quickly grow back together. Peter David's 'Hulk: The End' story has something similar happen, where a post-apocalyptic swarm of mutant bees [or something] eat half Hulk's body away, but it regrows. He's immortal.
I'm always grateful for soccer-free days. I can't stand football.
So, comics.
Thor, I guess, but as usual I'm drawing a blank.
And DD232. I remember picking this one up the evening I went to see Return Of The Living Dead at the local fleapit [not keen] and then popped round to see my girlfriend of the time [not keen either].
Am I the only person who thinks that, despite being magnificent overall, Born Again tails off slightly? There's the remarkable holding cell assassination scene in this issue, but the slightly cartoonish super-soldier Nuke is a bit of a letdown after the brilliant preceding street-level chapters. The conclusion next month is even less impressive. Does this story need more superheroes?
Anyway. Has anyone read any of the other comics? the covers aren't very enticing.
Just DD for me. Unlike Matthew (McKinnon not Murdoch) I really liked the Nuke issues concluding Born Again. I would have liked a Captain America series written by Miller, based upon his treatment in Born Again. I do agree that Return of the Living Dead, was sh#te.
The Amazing Spider-man cover looks ok, but the others seem very bleh. I didn't realise Hobgoblin turned out to be Flash Thompson. I thought he was either Ned Leeds or Liam Gallagher.
DW
DW, when it comes to the true identity of the Hobgoblin, there are still twists to come.
Charlie, I agree with Matthew upon the futility of attacking the Hulk's ear holes.
Charlie-
The Hulk's skull is so strong that Antman would be smushed if he tried to expand.
Frankly, I'm surprised that didn't occur to you.
Something like that did happen in JLA, though. In an alternate future, Green Arrow jr. fires an arrow into Darkseid's brain, with the Atom riding on it. Then the Atom fries his brain with, uh, lasers or somesuch. Pretty cool.
Hot where you're at? Jesus, it's hot here.
Good practice for Hell, I guess.
Some lucky bastard in Tierra del Fuego is freezing his ass off right about now.
M.P.
A ridiculous amount of white background covers, this month. Less is more, Marvel.
The idea of the Avengers deliberately intending to kill anyone, let alone the Hulk, is completely against Marvel comics' spirit, as envisioned by Stan Lee. It's stuff like this that alienated Marvel's readership. ( The 'moral ambiguity' nonsense, and Wolverinisation of Marvel.)
The Hobgoblin doesn't concern me, but if Scourge had successfully killed the Constrictor, Marvel would have lost a terrific villain, in my eyes. Cap take a bow...
M.P. - The temperature's cooled down, to moderately hot. So, nothing to complain about, here.
Phillip
DD 232 is the only one of these that I bought back in the Long Ago. I agree that ‘Born Again’ seemed to run out of gas a bit near the end. Still an excellent run of comics. I also never knew that the Hobgoblin’s secret identity turned out to be Flash ‘Spidey’s Biggest Fan’ Thompson.
b.t.
MP - Charlie in Sugar Grove Illinois survived 8” of rain in 24 hours sans problem last weekend. Heat was mid-90s stuff.
(SMARTEE PANTS WARNING!)
The next morning, i walk out my garage and walk onto my driveway, which is very close to my neighbors front patio. My neighbor in her 70s is wearing her night gown and holding up a “test tube” about as big as a large Polish sausage, while in her nightgown. The tube measures rainfall.
She looks at me, smiles, and displaying the rain collector says, “ Look at this Joe, I got 8 inches last night! “
All I could mumble was “That’s incredible! I will let Deb know for sure!”
Joe - "As the actress said to the vicar", translated to American, is: "That's what she said!" I believe!
Phillip
Gimme a red!
Matthew (and b.t.), I completely disagree - the last two parts of 'Born Again' are great. They add an epic resolution, and further dimension to the story, telling us how far the Kingpin's corporate power reaches into the state, and military/industrial complex; and how reckless his obsessive need to take down Daredevil actually is, unleashing it on New York.
And give us a sense of how Daredevil fits into the Marvel Universe, in a manner not unlike Alan Moore's Swamp Thing #24. You just know that JLA appearance inspired fearless Frank's Avengers cameo...
Plus, like DW says, the next issue is a great Captain America story (and there aren't many of those). Although I like the fact that it wasn't part of a whole Cap series. That even in the new direct market era - with de luxe 'graphic novels', 'prestige' format mini-series etc - there were still brilliant, key single issues of regular comics that you could get in corner shops. See also: Swamp Thing #21, Thor #336...
My only criticism of that DD run is that Marvel office politics meant Miller didn't get to do the last two issues he had planned after #233... featuring Dr Strange!
-sean
sean:
For me, Cap’s big moment at the end of “Born Again” about being “loyal only to the dream” of America (I’m probably misquoting from memory) while holding the flag is very powerful and the most memorable part of the ‘Born Again’ finale. I kinda wish DD himself had a comparable moment — it IS his comic after all. The full page splash of Matt strolling through Hell’s Kitchen arm in-arm-with Karen Page is sweet and all, but….
This is the first I’ve heard of a cancelled DD / Dr. Strange two-parter by Miller and Mazzuchelli. Wow, that woulda been neat.
b.t.
The DD/Doc two parter would have been drawn by Walt Simonson, b.t. (I read about it in an interview with him a while back).
Not sure of the ins and outs, but my understanding is that editorial wonks had the bright idea of moving it back in the schedule a couple of issues, so new Daredevil writer Steve Englehart could get one or two stories under his belt before fearless Frank left for good. Some sort of cunning plan to hang onto as much of any sales bump as possible...
Only there was a bit of hassle - I think over the one-off drawn by Barry Windsor-Smith? - that annoyed Englehart, Miller lost interest, and somehow DD #s234 and 235 ended up being fill-ins drawn by Steve Ditko.
Not to put down Sturdy Steve, but in 1986 that wasn't really the best way to hang onto any new readers drawn in by 'Born Again'.
Thinking about Miller's use of Captain America in #233 a bit more, it occurs to me now that there are parallels with Superman appearing in the last part of Dark Knight Returns.
And on that subject, DKR #2 came out this month from DC.
As did Moore & co's double-size Swamp Thing #50, Howard Victor Chaykin's Shadow #3, and DC Graphic Novel #6, Pat Mills and Kevin O'Neill's Metalzoic.
Not had going from the competition.
Also with a July '86 cover-date: Miracleman #9, the child birth issue. Which had actually been done a couple of years before in another Eclipse comic, Sabre #7... but no-one noticed when Dauntless Don McGregor did it. Aww.
-sean
Phillip, funny you should mention 'Wolverinisation', as X-Men #207 this month ends with Wolverine seeming to kill Rachel Summers.
Basically, she goes off to the Hellfire Club planning to kill Selene. Wolverine follows her and tells her the X-Men don't kill people. And then tries to kill her to make sure she doesn't.
I'm not sure he really thought that through properly...
-sean
*Not bad going from the competition.
Duh.
Oops, I nearly forgot to mention the greatest comic book drama of all in July '86... the Melchester Rovers Massacre!
After a friendly International, the team had been caught up in the Basranian coup - no World Cup for Roy Race that summer! - and this month got wiped out by a suicide bomber...
https://www.greatnewsforallreaders.com/blog/2016/7/19/on-this-day-19-july-1986-roy-of-the-rovers
Shocking. Although on the plus side, at least none of the Spandau Ballet boys were still in the team.
-sean
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