Thursday, 7 March 2019

March 7th, 1979 - Marvel UK, 40 years ago this week.

In this week of 1979, the sounds of jubilant rejoicing could be heard all throughout Britain as, the length and breadth of this country, came the sound of Marvel UK's comics hitting people's front doormats.

It's true. After weeks of industrial chaos, everything was back to normal for our favourite comics company.

Or was it?

For, among those comics, one was missing.

And that was Star Wars Weekly. Having continued production right through the thick of the problems, the moment those problems were sorted out, the comic promptly disappeared.

Still, if we were feeling bereft, perhaps we shouldn't have been. After all, there was a new arrival this week, with the launch of a brand new title.

What could it be?

And how would it change our lives?

Hulk Comic #1
And here it is! Marvel UK's brand new mag!

Like the rest of the Marvel Revolution's weekly output, it was blessed with a highly imaginative (and search engine unfriendly) title, being called Hulk Comic.

But, the green Goliath aside, what was inside it?

The Black Knight, SHIELD, Night-Raven and Ant-Man were inside it.

But something strange was afoot. Aside from Ant-Man, those strips didn't look like they should do.

In fact, they seemed strangely British.

And that was no accident because Dez Skinn had hired some of Britain's finest comic book talent to create brand new tales for those characters. Suddenly, after years of thrilling to the work of Jack Kirby, John Buscema and John Romita, we were thrilling to the work of David Lloyd, Steve Parkhouse and Dave Gibbons.

While it was admirable that Skinn was willing to give work to British creators - and there was no doubt about their talent - the truth is the Hulk Comic was a very strange concoction indeed. American heroes written and drawn British-style had that Uncanny Valley feeling to it. It was sort of Marvel but not quite Marvel. It also didn't help that the Hulk who featured in these tales owed far more to the TV incarnation of him than he did to the original comic version.

Marvel Comic #332, the Hulk

But hold on a minute. What's this? The Hulk now has his own weekly title and yet he's still in Marvel Comic?

As far as I an remember, the overlap only lasted for one week and then the green menace was replaced by another green menace, in the form of Godzilla.

I do believe that, in this issue, Jade Jaws is still battling the Thing. I hope it wraps that tale up or it looks like we're never going to find out how it ends.

Something else I might never know is what else happens in this issue, as I don't have a clue.

Marvel UK, Savage Sword of Conan #17

Hooray! It's the return of, "Britain's Number One Sword and Sorcery Magazine!"

Admittedly, it's probably Britain's only sword and sorcery magazine, so it's not that much of a boast.

As for the contents, the cover implies the lead tale is Alex Niño's redoubtable People of the Dark but there's nothing in the sidebar that suggests it is.

I do know that, elsewhere, Red Sonja befriends a unicorn in a Frank Thorne drawn tale.

I don't have a clue what Solomon Kane's up to, other than that he's still in Africa.

Rampage magazine #9, the Hulk vs the Avengers

It's the early 1960s and the Hulk meets the Avengers before they become the Avengers.

Meanwhile, various other people are in the process of becoming the X-Men, as a whole new bunch of recruits are in the midst of their first adventure together, which I recall as mostly being made up of them bickering among themselves.

Spider-Man Comic #313

That somewhat anomalous early Ross Andru Spidey tale looks to still be ongoing.

Other than that, I can say nothing of this comic's contents.



Starburst Magazine #7, the Cylons

Now here's a strange thing.

Some people might notice that I covered this issue last month.

That's because, I've since discovered this is actually the issue for March 1979, not February, even though it's the issue after January's and it's supposed to be a monthly title.

What madness is Marvel UK trying to inflict upon me?

35 comments:

dangermash said...

I often wonder what Dez Skinn is doing today.

My bet would be that he's the guy behind the scenes on Dancing On Ice butchering great songs so that they can fit into 90 seconds and people can skate to them.

When the series is over, he'll be back in Tescos folding French sticks in half so people can fit them in their shopping bags.

Bitter? Me?

Anonymous said...

Hulk Comic might not have looked as expected, but putting a Sal Buscema face on a Brian Bolland figure on that cover showed Dez Skinn did have an authentically Marvel editorial approach (I guess he couldn't find a Romita Hulk headshot).
It was still a ridiculous thing to do though.

Personally, I liked the different feel of the new material, and clearly wasn't the only one - the creators Dez Skinn used pretty much saved DC in the 80s.
Its easy to forget how odd it seemed at the time that most of them didn't break into American comics at Marvel, which was the parent company's loss - John Bolton's Kull was hands down the best thing in any of their sword-and-sorcery titles since Red Nails.

-sean

Anonymous said...

And had we not thrilled to Steve Parkhouse's work for Marvel ten years earlier, as detailed in your previous post Steve?

-sean

Timothy Field said...

The industrial action of this period really did make a mess of the Marvel UK Revolution, must have been horribly frustrating for those involved.

Steve W. said...

I didn't thrill to it, Sean. I've never read it.

Tim, personally, I totally failed to notice it. How I could miss the fact that most of the comics that I read at the time had disappeared, I have no idea.

Dangermash, I don't know what Dez is up to right now but I have just discovered, from his website, that, in 1973, IPC tried to launch a Captain Britain comic of their own. http://dezskinn.com/projects/

Anonymous said...

Hard to believe IPC couldn't find an artist able to draw something closer to a US superhero style than Eric Bradbury, as I'm pretty sure Dave Gibbons was doing some bits and pieces for them by then, and Steve Parkhouse was on staff.
Love him or hate him - or come down somewhere in between - SezDez is a graduate of the Stan Lee school of hype (not necessarily a criticism).

And no, I haven't read that Ka-Zar story either. That was a general "we" - as in Marveldom - rather than specifically you and me.

-sean

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Here we go again, you guys mentioning industrial actions at that time.

Given I was just listening to Pink Floyd Animals...

Was the prime minister at this time the "Big man, pig man" or the " bus stop rat bag FU old hag?"

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Also, you chaps mentioned Dez Skinn...

I see there is a UK pub called Fanscene which is on its 2nd or 3rd interviews and covers 50 years of UK comics. Dez apparently contributes. I haven't had a chance to read it but perhaps you gents have the time and may find it of interest?

https://downthetubes.net/?p=42492

Anonymous said...

Apparently Bolland was none to pleased when he saw his Hulk face redrawn in a Sterankotastic way. The original is easy to find online and is probably not his best work. I believe Steve Dillon was only 16 years old when he was illustrating the Nick Fury strip.

DW

Charlie Horse 47 said...

B.t.w. when I talk about Pink and Animals, in NO WAY am I knocking your politicians! I should have put a big LOL after what I wrote.

Today, 40 years later after buying that album, I just learned what Pink was talking about and, well, it just made me LMAO.

(Also, "white house" is NOT referring to our white house where President Bonespur lives!)

Far be it for me, seeker of truth, justice, and unraveling american BS, to knock other countries.

Anonymous said...

No worries Charlie, I doubt anyone will hold it against you - pretty much everyone knocks the politicians here.
Probably the "rat bag" was Margaret Thatcher - sounds about right - who became PM in May '79 (a couple of years or so after it was released), and the last bit was about moral majority campaigner Mary Whitehouse.

Dunno about "big man"... sounds like maybe James Goldsmith, someone wheeler-dealer type like that? Although I understand it has found something of a new context in recent years.

-sean

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Thanks! Last think I want is to mis-communicate to you gents.

All that said, I honestly cannot think of any big time American groups bashing on our Presidents (once you get out of the Vietnam years), though they would certainly deserve it.

The only thing that comes to mind, and its not from the US, is Heaven 17's "Fascist Groove Thing" banging on Reagan.

Can you guys think of anything off hand?

Anonymous said...

"Tin soldiers and Nixons coming..."
Thats a big-time American tune isn't it Charlie?

Although Neil Young got a haircut and was mad for Reagan by the 80s...

-sean

Anonymous said...

Charlie

Lily Allen's "F!@# you" is apparently aimed at Bush the Younger. It was biggish in Oz.

DW

Anonymous said...

Charlie - oh, post-Vietnam suggestions. Duh.

Five Minutes by Bonzo Goes to Washington shows a healthy disrespect for the oval office.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3CUHnUsk8M

-sean

Anonymous said...

The Savage Sword Of Conan cover was used again on the cover of No.49 in 1981. In fact, several of the early UK Savage Sword covers were re-used on later issues. I know recycling should be encouraged but Marvel UK were a bit over-enthusiastic.

Timothy Field said...

Charlie, here in the UK we have an almost universal disdain for political high-office and those that occupy it. Our mockery of the political classes has always been British cultural touchstone. The only areas you need to avoid are criticism of tea drinking and socialised healthcare.

Charlie Horse 47 said...

Speaking of tea, lol...

What in the heck is the difference between English, Irish, and Scottish breakfast tea? I just bought a medley of black teas composed of those three.

I confess I can't taste the diff but then again my taste buds are older, abused, and whatever...

Well, we like to scorn our politicians too, but you blokes take it to a higher level. When I see the PM surrounded by MPs (it's something required by law?) getting bombarded by questions and razzed... simply AWESOME!

Anonymous said...

That’s a BOLLAND body on HULK COMIC #1?!! Never woulda guessed it. Low-rez scan blurs out the tell-tale feathering — but after embiggening for a closer look, I can kinda sorta see it. Left leg anatomy and left hand look pretty Bolland-y — but boy, his right forearm and hand are TINY. Well, he was pretty young. Curious to see the original head now...

-b.t.

dangermash said...

"Charlie, here in the UK we have an almost universal disdain for political high-office and those that occupy it. Our mockery of the political classes has always been British cultural touchstone."

Spot on Tim, which is why nobody over here bats an eyelid when Roger Waters (say) writes songs attacking politicians.

On the other hand, if we're talking about God Save The Queen by the Sex Pistols, that's a different matter altogether.

Anonymous said...

The British do seem to have become more divided on the monarchy since the silver jubilee though dangermash.

My theory is that brexit is a joint plot between the royal family and politicians to take attention away from them and keep everyone busy arguing about Europe instead.

-sean

Killdumpster said...

HOKEY SMOKES, BULLWINKLE!!!

Steve-

I admit that my knowledge of the British comic book experience was next to minimal (I've learned alot from this blog, and all you guys, oh my brothers).

Technically, though using minor characters, this Dez Skinn fellow actually was almost creating an alternate universe.

Was it at that time, Steve, that Ant-Man was one of your fav heroes?

Just kinda blows me away you folks had more original Marvel stories outside of Capt Britain back then. I read a few Marvel UK titles in the nineties, and found them horrid.

Killdumpster said...

Hey, all you fellow Banana Splits fans, bad news.

Jan-Michael Vincent is dead. RIP.

May a heavenly Airwolf lift his weary & troubled consciousness to another plane of Adventure Island.

Steve W. said...

KD, my love for Ant-Man was very early in my comic reading career. By the late 1970s, I'd already fully realised just how rubbish he was.

Anonymous said...

Did you like the film though Steve?
Not generally that interested in the Marvel films myself, but when I caught Ant-Man on tv not long ago it was surprisingly entertaining.

-sean

Steve W. said...

I must confess that I've not seen it yet. I am drastically behind when it comes to my Marvel movie watching.

Killdumpster said...

Steve-

I HIGHLY recommend Ant-Man! Most of my friends (& myself) think it's one of the more downright entertaining Marvel films.

I haven't seen Ant-Man & The Wasp yet, but I heard it's just as good.

Killdumpster said...

Speaking of Marvel movies, anyone seen or planning to see Capt Marvel? One outta 3 of my friends liked it, the other two were either supreme thumbs down or mildly annoyed they wasted their time here on planet earth.

Anonymous said...

For some reason Youtube currently recommends videos to me with titles like "Brie Larson is Ruining Marvel", which does rather encourage me to go and see the film if only to annoy the loonies.

-sean

TC said...

I'd rather see Alita again than see Captain Mary Sue once.

Anonymous said...

Well, superhero movies at their best are a pretty mixed bag. I was partial to the last Batman trilogy and I thought the first Guardians movie was pretty great! Watchmen was brilliant. Even Ebert dug it.
But the rest of 'em, fmeh. I just kinda shrug.

M.P.

Anonymous said...

I didn't dig Watchmen M.P. But then I enjoyed Deadpool, so what do I know?
Captain Marvel will be the same mix of state of the art fx, wisecracks and daddy issues thats a bit "fmeh" - you're right about that - as the other Marvel flicks. So I don't know why people that like the rest of them were complaining before they've even seen it.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I also don't agree with condemning a movie before seeing it. For all I know, Captain Marvel might be a great flick. But everything over here has gotten political, even superhero movies, and apparently these trolls think the movie's about radical feminism, or whatever dumb thing they're enraged about this week.
I often find myself walking around outside, looking at trees and birds and listening to jazz or classical music on my headphones. Nuts to all this craziness.
I can't take much of the news anymore, but I have been sometimes feeding one of the local rabbits. He's had a tough winter. Gets my mind off that stuff.

M.P.

Timothy Field said...

Watched Captain Marvel yesterday, a fun, enjoyable film. Suffers from the usual MCU problems but is no worse than any other and better than some. It does a good job of mixing the original Mar-Vell mythology with Carol's old and new versions.
There is absolutely nothing in it that should upset even the most insecure of snowflaky snowflake.

Watch, enjoy, or don't. Usual drill for any film.

Killdumpster said...

I'll probably wait for the DVD.

Cinema etiquette has really taken a downturn,in my opinion, based on my last couple theater visits.