Thursday 16 November 2023

November 17th, 1973 - Marvel UK, 50 years ago this week.

Thanks to Charlie Horse 47 and Killdumpster for their sponsorship of this post, via the magic of Patreon
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If there's one thing in life we can all be certain of, it's that a sitcom starring nothing but old-age pensioners can't possibly last for more than a short stint. After all, how long can it be before the entire cast are dead?

But how wrong we would be in thinking that, because this week in 1973 saw the launch of a sitcom about the retired that would run for a walloping 37 years, and 31 series.

You'd better believe it. It was in this week that BBC One's Last of the Summer Wine began its first series, following a premiere in the January 4th edition of Comedy Playhouse. So long-surviving was the show that, sometimes, it's a shock to discover it's not still going.

Over on the UK singles chart, there was a brand new Number One. It was by Gary Glitter. And it was called I Love You Love Me Love.

Moving swiftly on, the accompanying album chart saw the roost still being ruled by David Bowie with his oddly unhyphenated LP Pin Ups.

The Mighty World of Marvel #59, Hulk vs the Inhumans

And it's arrived! The most important week in the history of the human race!

After all, this is the week in which I decide to collect comics, rather than just throwing them away.

And which adventures are we treated to on the event of this momentous circumstance?

As we can see from that cover, the Hulk's still up against the Evil Inhumans whose leader Maximus is attempting to get his hands on an ancient power source that can grant him control over the Great Refuge - again.

But, despite what the cover claims, the Fantastic Four are not in combat with the X-Men. That duel was all done and dusted with last week.

Instead, the cosmic quartet are confronting the ephemeral return of the Red Ghost - or the Mad Ghost as he's always called in the UK books.

I don't recall too much of what happens in that tale but I'm pretty sure it starts on Yancy Street and ends up on the moon, with the Watcher, as always, getting involved in things.

Spider-Man Comics Weekly #40, the Shocker

It's bad news for Spidey. Barely has he had time to recover from thwarting the Lizard than a whole new menace hits town.

And that menace is the Shocker, a small-time crook who's built himself a super-powered suit, while in prison, and is determined to make the most of it.

Sadly, that crook has not taken into account his one weakness.

His thumbs.

Meanwhile, drama hits a whole new level in the Thor strip, as the thunder god finds himself in a Vietnamese jungle and having to face the unstoppable might of the Destroyer, thanks to a foolish hunter having accidentally activated the enchanted robot.

With his hammer chopped in half by the menace, how can even our hero possibly survive?

The Avengers #9, Marvel UK

And this is it, the comic whose glossy cover was the thing that convinced me the time had come to spare all future comics the dustbin.

In fairness, despite its vital importance in mankind's story, I don't recall too much about the main tale. I seem to remember the Mad Ghost and Mole Man are in it and that they, sort of, team up.

Stan Lee wrote this tale, so I'm going to assume that one of those villains kidnaps the Wasp, and the rest of her team have to go and rescue her.

I'm also going to assume the bad guys fall out and the good guys win.

I possess much stronger memories of the Dr Strange tale. The sorcerer supreme steps in when a TV station decides to conduct a live broadcast from a haunted house. Holy shades of Ghostwatch, Batman!

This time, no nation is traumatised but it is true to say that dark forces are at play and the supernatural surgeon has to overcome a house that's literally alive.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

STEVE - I thought you said in your YouTube review of FF #1 you started collecting comics in 1972?
TIA for the clarification.

P.S. Do you still own that Sable hat and Dennis the Menace striped shirt?

Charles

Anonymous said...

Steve:
Congratulations on the anniversary of your Comic Collector Decision. With all sincerity, it is an important milestone in any fan’s life.

b.t.

Steve W. said...

Charlie, I started reading American comics in 1972 but only started collecting them in 1973.

I still own that hat but not the shirt.

Bt, it is indeed.

Anonymous said...

The famous hat:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3gl3s6

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Steve

How many earlier UK Marvel comics had you thrown away? Coming in around November 1974 (POTA #4) I immediately ascribed such value to older comics that I wonder how my young self would have felt if I'd had older issues and discarded them. Did you try to re-collect any other these?

I skipped the solely reading stage and immediate became a collector. However, the next issue of POTA I found for sale at the newsagents was #20. Thus my collection started poorly.

DW

Steve W. said...

DW, I'd thrown away every issue of both Mighty World of Marvel and Spider-Man Comics Weekly before this week's issues, apart from Mighty World of Marvel #53 which, for unknown reasons, had managed to stay within the house. I never made any attempt to re-collect any of them.

dangermash said...

I stand with Steve. I didn't start keeping the comics until SMCW #73.

In the U.K., back then you would finish with a comic or magazine, then throw it away when the next one arrives. I reckon Dez Skinn, being someone who wanted to turn Marvel UK back away from American style comics towards OK comics with multiple 2–3 page strips with tiny panels, would have tha5 sort of mindset too.

Anonymous said...

To me, my earliest Marvel comics were priceless treasures. Getting me to bin them would have been like trying to confiscate Charlton Heston's rifles!

Phillip

Anonymous said...

I think, the point is, comics with glossy covers and great art, aren't bin-fodder. However, perhaps paper-weeklies are cheaper, and nastier looking, in some instances. Marvel UK, during its birth, and during the Marvel Revolution (to echo Dangermash), used cheaper materials, at its forge!

Phillip

Redartz said...

Congrats on such a truly monumental anniversary, Steve! Such decisions as yours would lead us all eventually to...well, where we are today; typing thoughts on comics into a convenient keyboard!

Timing-wise, you have me beat by a bit; my big moment came in Feb. 74 (not too far off in the world of SDC).

Did your parents approve of your decision to collect, rather than dispose, of your comics? So often we hear of parents who threw out such things. Mine did, until I actively started collecting; upon which time they were quite supportive and even found comics for me during their occasional antiquing hunts...

Steve W. said...

Red, when I announced that I was going to be collecting comics, my dad supplied me with a large box to put them in. :)

Anonymous said...

Steve, I am afraid you are mistaken about this week's Avengers story - it's actually Giant Man who was captured, by the Mole Man, and has to be rescued by the team. Led, in fact, by the wondrous Wasp, as she was the acting chair...er, man that issue.

Don't worry though, there's still plenty of Stan the Man's take on the ladies, with Jan more interested in her appointment at the hairdressers than super-heroing, and generally being fairly passive aggressive to Hank from the start. "Sure, mustn't keep the ants waiting..."

The Mole Man had a giant machine at the centre of the earth - an 'atomic gyroscope' iirc - which he used to start speeding up the rate at which the planet spun on its axis, the idea being that once it got fast enough all life on the surface would be wiped out, while him and the Moloids would be safe and secure in their own artificial gravity underground.
Not sure about the scheme really. My suspicion is that the Mole Man - and Stan Lee - probably have didn't have A-level physics.

-sean

dangermash said...

Mention of A level physics sounds like the SDC version of one of those bridge convention secret bidding codes. But rather than meaning I have two aces but no clubs it means hey dangermash help us out here.

What I'm thinking is that making the Earth spin faster would make is all feel lighter and eventually fling us all off into space. But underground, if they live in caves with ceilings, the ceilings will hold them in. And get the rate of rotation exactly right and you'll create a 2001–style artificial gravity where people can walk around on the ceiling and feel no heavier or lighter than they did when the Earth was rotating slower and they were standing on the floor. Maybe this was Moley's plan.

Anonymous said...

dangermash is being a bit unfair to SezDez imo, as the weeklies weren't the whole story. Don't forget that while he was in charge at Marvel UK the number of monthlies - which were clearly attempting to tap into, and foster, a collector-type mentality - increased.

-sean

Anonymous said...

"The ceilings will hold them in"
Er... ok, dm.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Steve - I, too, got boxes for my collection - cereal boxes!

Sean - good point. The Marvel Revolution spawned great, glossy-covered monthlies, ripe for collections.

Phillip

Anonymous said...

I don't recall ever actually throwing any comics out as a little scrote... but I don't particularly remember hanging on to them either.
Not til around sometime in '73, when I was really into Kamandi #6 and Captain Marvel #29, which I made a point of keeping somewhere so I could re-read them obsessively (which didn't do much for their condition!) Before that, comics just seemed to circulate. Alan Moore put it well - if you grew up lower class enough comics were always around, like rickets.

-sean

Colin Jones said...

DW, my first Marvel comic was POTA #5 - only one week behind you but I had no problems getting further issues except #8.

I started reading Spider-Man Comics Weekly at #103 (week ending February 1st 1975) but I'm not sure when exactly I started collecting my comics rather than binning them. By around mid-1975 definitely.

If any UK readers are interested, there's a documentary called 'Doctor Who: The Wilderness Years' on Radio 4 on Sunday afternoon at 4.30pm.

Colin Jones said...

DW, there's a website called Hunter's Planet Of The Apes which displays all the UK POTA covers and if you click on "view" underneath each cover you can read that issue's POTA strip but unfortunately none of the other contents are included so there's no Ka-Zar, Gullivar Jones or any of the other stuff in the POTA weeklies which is a great pity.

Colin Jones said...

It's time to start listening to Christmas songs on YouTube again and for some reason it's become a tradition for me to start with Paul McCartney's 'Wonderful Christmastime' so I've just been listening to it.

Anonymous said...

Colin - Tonight BBC2's having a Blondie night, starting 8pm. I know you don't watch tv, but it might be available on catchup/on demand (?)

Phillip

Steve W. said...

Colin, my Christmas listening always starts with Shakin' Stevens and then moves on to Slade.

Anonymous said...

I have to say, I never deliberately started collecting because I never threw any comics away.

That said, my grandfather would dutifully, save the Chicago tribune daily comics pages which were very much different than what we got in our local paper, and after reading those I would throw them away. And of course, those would’ve been much more similar to your news printed comics, so perhaps the quality of the paper did make a difference.

Geeze i miss those old comic strips: Dick Tracy, Dondi, Orphan Annie, Spider Man was actually not of their calibre imo…
Charlie

dangermash said...

My Christmas music listening is limited to Roy Wood and The Wombles

https://youtu.be/oyuxPjnFqyA?si=gMLiEZqjMC1_yTnm

And Stevie Riks

https://youtu.be/afa_blHj8C4?si=bz3uwXoHOGd9YDa7

It might come as a surprise to some but I've no plans to invest in the Lynyrd Skynyrd or William Shatner Christmas albums.

Anonymous said...

How surprising dm.

I won't be investing in anything for the foreseeable future because I got a letter this morning from my bank telling me they froze my account - with my #@$%ing money in it! - because I am a bloody foreigner. Seasons greetings to you too, British finance capitalists.

Seriously. I'm petty sure I can sort it out fairly quickly after the weekend, but let that be a warning to all you cashless types (of which there are a few round these parts iirc from a past Speak Your Brain). If I didn't keep a fair few readies under the mattress just in case, I'd be well f#@&ed at the moment.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Er... apologies if I was sounding off about something irrelevant there, Steve (I'm a bit annoyed at the moment, and my warp spasm keeps taking over).

-sean

Anonymous said...

Sean - I temporarily lost my debit card, last week - and my brother pointed out similar issues (had I not found it), my bank only opening 3 days/week. It certainly gives you pause! Banks are sharks - I hope things work out, on Monday.

Phillip

dangermash said...

You have my sympathies Sean.

Particularly unlucky of you to have ended up with a bank where there are decision makers that realise Ireland is a foreign country - so many people in the U.K. think that if the Republic of Ireland is foreign then Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland must be too.

Hope you're quickly sorted.

Anonymous said...

I hope so Paul. It shouldn't be too hard, but you never know... Just before the pandemic hit, my bank said they were doing id checks on current account holders - all I had to do was go to my branch with a passport, which seemed a bit odd but straight straight forward enough. Except when I did - "Oh, your passport isn't British. We'll need a bit more information..."

Had a bit of hassle at that point, but I thought I'd got it all sorted out. Only now they've suddenly kicked off again out of the blue, by letting me know I can't access my own money. On a Saturday morning.
Thats the hostile environment for you.

-sean

Anonymous said...

*Oops, dangermash, not Paul.
Apologies DM - I was talking on the phone to someone else (called Paul) while typing. Duh.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Not to wade deeply into your politics since i got rid of my waders in the 1970s when the Lake Michigan pollution killed off the last of the smelt runs…

But dont you North Ireland, Scottish, Welsh, and English all carry the same looking passport since you are all the same country ? Seems weird Sean would be singled out since he is British ?

Anonymous said...

Is that you Charlie? I think you might be trying to wind me up there.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Sean it is Charlie. And since you and i have been SDC buddies going 5 (?) years, I aint in the business of winding you up! Killdumpster maybe… lol. But anyhow my question is sincere cause I thought you were the same country given the name of “ The Republic of GB and NI.”

Perhaps I am naive since we move freely among all 50 states including Hawaii and Alaska and no one asks anyone here for a passport as long as you have a birth certificate and social security number and envelope with your address on it to open a bank account, etc.

That said I have produced my Passport (since I travel to Europe often enough it’s handy) to obviate that stuff.

Actually the only time once in Europe i had to show my passport thiugh it was clear i was US military was going from Germany to France and also Gibraltar to Spain. The Spanish military ripped the whole f’ing car apart and baggage and left it all in the grass for r us to out back together. That was around 1987 though. Im sure that would never happen now…

Colin Jones said...

Phillip, thanks for mentioning the Blondie night and yes, it's available on BBC iplayer so I can watch at my leisure over the next few days. I see there's a documentary called 'Blondie In Britain' about the band's relationship with the UK and I wonder if it'll include Blondie's appearance on Swap Shop on December 22nd 1979.

I notice that Planet Of The Apes (1968) is also available on iplayer for the next three weeks. It was on iplayer last Christmas too and I watched it then but the original POTA film is a classic so I'll have to watch it again!

Colin Jones said...

Charlie, yes England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all share the same UK passport but Sean was born in the Republic of Ireland and he's never become a British citizen despite living here for 50 years so he has an Irish passport.

Colin Jones said...

You have my sympathies, Sean, and I hope you get it all sorted out!

My bank is the Halifax and I've never had any problems with them but I also have a Post Office savings account and about 5 years ago I received a letter saying my P.O. account would be suspended as I wasn't using it! So I immediately withdrew some cash from the account and ever since I've made a deposit or withdrawal every few months just to keep the account active. In 2021 the Post Office introduced a new rule that all its' accounts had to be linked to a bank account so my P.O. account is now linked to my Halifax account which means I can easily move money back and forth to make sure my P.O. account remains active and doesn't get suspended!

Anonymous said...

Thats not actually the case that I've lived in the UK for 50 years. Probably a bit under half that I should think.

Charlie, 1987 was before the Treaty of Maastricht and 'free movement' in Europe, so yeah - much easier to go to France from Germany these days. Although you might now have similar problems going into Spain from Gibraltar, with the latter being (allegedly) British. Since Brexit it's up for grabs again, like the 'NI' bit of the UK...

-sean

Colin Jones said...

I've now watched 'When Blondie Came To Britain' and the Swap Shop appearance did indeed feature!

Anonymous said...

Colin

This site had a complete run of POTA available to download (along with pretty much every Marvel UK) and the issues are complete:

https://britishcomics.wordpress.com/

Steve

If you'd rather not have links posted here, please delete. I don't want to tread on anyone's toes.

DW

Anonymous said...

To return to this week's comics, I'm getting dibs on the following weak & pathetic quip:

"I thought Jarella was the Hulk's only ball & chain!"

When I said I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me. Well, they're not laughing now! (Stolen from Bob Monkhouse.)

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

Thanks, DW!