Thursday, 21 November 2024

November 23rd, 1974 - Marvel UK, 50 years ago this week.

Thanks to Charlie Horse 47 and Killdumpster for their sponsorship of this post, via the magic of Patreon
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Oh is he more, too much more than a pretty face?

I don't think so.

Then again, perhaps I do think so.

He is, after all, still at Number One on the UK singles chart, with his latest smash Gonna Make You a Star.

I refer, of course, to David Essex who's discovered what it's like to rule supreme over the British music scene.

Also having a strong sense of what it's like to reign supreme is Elton John whose Greatest Hits album, has smashed straight in at Number One on the accompanying album chart.

It is, of course, November 1974.

Spider-Man Comics Weekly #93, Lizard & the Human Torch

The Lizard is back!

And so is the Human Torch, in a comic which bears a Gil Kane cover of mystery origins. Was it drawn specially for this issue or is it a reprint from somewhere else?

That, I don't know but I do remember asking that selfsame question in an ancient post you can find right here.

Meanwhile, Iron Man's still having to endure the Mandarin boring him to death with his origin story. and then trying to spin him to death with his sizeable wheel.

But maybe Shellhead's the lucky one because, when he's done that, the villain wants to start a global nuclear war, with him being the only winner.

Fortunately, the Chinese government have something to say about that sort of malarkey.

And say it, they do.

Elsewhere, it's triple trouble  for Thor, Balder and Sif when the Enchanters Three show up in New York.

And they've brought their Living Talisman with them!

Then again, let's be honest, there wouldn't be much point in them bringing their dead talisman with them.

Marvel UK Avengers #62, the Black Knight

It took me far too many years to realise that, on this cover, the Black Knight's flying vertically, with the Avengers falling towards the skyscrapers below, rather than him flying horizontally, with the Avengers floating behind him in a disorganised manner.

I did always wonder how Goliath and Hawkeye were managing to fly.

Elsewhere, Dr Strange and Victoria Bentley are in a bizarre world, in search of Clea, when who should show up but Dormammu!

And now, Strangey's going to have to go through him if he's to ensure the survival of those two women!

As for Shang-Chi, he's in Beijing, trying to protect Sandra Chen's scientist father from the Manchurian machinations of his own fiendish father.

Shangy does such a great job of it that, by the end of this issue, that scientist's dead and our hero's unconscious. 

Marvel UK Dracula Lives #5

From what I can make out, Taj and Rachel prevent Frank Drake from committing suicide and this enables him to join their cause which I'm sure he'll prove massively valuable to.

Elsewhere, Jack Russell's furry alter-ego finally wins his fight with Max Grant .

And Frankenstein's Monster avenges the death of the Bride of Frankenstein by killing his creator's wife.

We complete the issue with a short tale from 1953's Adventures Into Terror. It's called The Executioner and features Francis Tourneau's efforts to create a more efficient means of executing people.

Unfortunately for him, the French Revolution breaks out and he becomes the first victim of his own machine.

The machine the world knows as, "the guillotine."

Mighty World of Marvel #112, The Valkyrie

The Hulk?

Defeated by a blonde?

It can only happen in the pages of They Shoot Hulks, Don't They? when the brute finds himself flung from the top of the Empire State Building.

Meanwhile, the man without fear's still in England and still trying to clear the name of Ka-Zar who's been framed by his evil brother the Plunderer.

And the Fantastic Four finally overcome the Wakandan traps set for them by the Black Panther and confront him, ready for him to reveal the dynamic truth about his origin.

Marvel UK Planet of the Apes #5

From that cover, I think we can all assume this is the pulse-pounding issue in which Taylor finally proves to the apes that he can speak.

Not that that's likely to do him any good.

Especially as his first words to them are so abusive.

In Ka-Zar's strip, the Petrified Man becomes Garokk, the Sun God and thwarts Zaladane's attack on the Vala-Kuri. Obviously, the highlight of this issue is Garokk coming up against a T-Rex.

When it comes to Gullivar Jones, Wayne Boring takes over the art chores but will Wayne live down to his surname?

I suspect not, as  Gullivar and Chak the pterosaur man strive to survive while the lovely but hapless Meru is taken captive by someone or other.

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

Planet of the Apes' most famous line falls completely flat without 'damn' ( in my mind, it's 'damned' ) in it! Then again, the US PoTA comics covers don't seem to have any dialogue at all.

It's a pity that Daredevil Ka-zar story, & the Ka-zar story in PoTA weren't combined in the same comic, just for completeness.

The Petrified Man & Zaladane only came my way later, in the X-Men. There's far more back story here, those X-Men tales could either have back-referenced, or drawn upon.

Phillip

Anonymous said...

That's a horrible SMCW cover, with only half of the sales on the lizard's head drawn in. A sneak preview of some horrible Kane and Coletta artwork the next time we see the Lizard in 25 months US time or about a year U.K. time.

The Romita and/or Buscema and/or Demo artwork in this issue is amazing though. Refreshing after all those times Marvel would put Kirby artwork on the cover and He k or F***** R****** on the inside.

Anonymous said...

Steve- for future reference, assume Hawkeye and Goliath cannot fly.

I invite fellow patrons of this blog to list other heroes and villains who cannot fly, for Steve’s reference. He may have developed incorrect interpretations of their powers over the decades.

Anonymous said...

Spider-Man can't fly. Except in ASM #8 and Avengers #11 where he can fire out webs mid air and mentally turn them into wings, which is all you need to be able to fly, yeah?

Anonymous said...

And isn’t there an early Avengers issue where Scarlet Witch is flying on the splash page?

dangermash said...
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dangermash said...

And that one ⬆️

dangermash said...

And another. I was logged out of Google, ok? ⬆️

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Anonymous said...

Daredevil cannot fly.

dangermash said...

That's my comment ⬆️

Anonymous said...

Aquaman cannot fly. Submariner can but not always fly!

Anonymous said...

In fairness to you, Steve, the colour on that Avengers cover does detract from recognizing that those are buildings (seen from above) in the background.

Francis Tourneau...? That must be whoever invented la guillotine in the Marvel universe, Steve, because in ours its generally attributed to an 18th century French surgeon called Antoine Louis (who I don't think was executed with one).

At least it is by the French. But then, they would say that, wouldn't they? In fact there was a very similar device used in Yorkshire since at least the 1500s -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Gibbet

Amazing, isn't it? The English basically had a guillotine at least a couple of hundred years before the French... yet here we are in 2024, and you still have Royals. Go figure, eh?

-sean

Anonymous said...

Phillip, not sure I agree with you about that the 'damn' (or if you prefer, 'damned'). It doesn't appear in the líne in the Planet of the Apes musical, yet it still works -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlmzUEQxOvA

Maybe Troy McClure is just a better actor than Charles Heston?

-sean

Anonymous said...

*Charlton Heston
#@%*ing spellcheck.

Anonymous said...

My main take-away from that SPIDEY WEEKLY cover is that it looks like the Lizard is giving Spidey a solid THWACK! right in the goolies. Ouch!

For a split-second I thought Gentleman Gene Colan drew that DRACULA LIVES cover but I guess Pablo Marcos was just doing his best Colan impression. Not bad.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

As POTA #5 was my first ever Marvel comic I assume the other Marvel weeklies were advertised inside so this week's covers were the first time I ever saw Spidey, the Hulk, the Avengers and Marvel's version of Dracula.

Colin Jones said...

The above comment was mine (forgot to sign in AGAIN).

Colin Jones said...

Steve, I was reading one of your old posts from 2010 in which you said that your father gave you the Marvel 1975 annual on a Thursday when David Essex was at No.1 on Top Of The Pops with 'Gonna Make You A Star' so we've reached the 50th anniversary of that earth-shattering event but on which Thursday did it occur?? There are three possible Thursdays - November 14th, 21st or 28th 1974.

Colin Jones said...

Steve, you recently mentioned Terry's mint-flavour chocolate orange but I've just heard about a Terry's chocolate orange PIE sold in McDonald's! Apparently the pie is pastry on the outside and a sort of gooey chocolate orange inside - what will they think of next??

Anonymous said...

A deep fried Chocolate Orange, Colin?

-sean

Anonymous said...

As soon as I posted that I realized I should have checked first.
Apparently the deep fried Chocolate Orange is already a thing -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-lincolnshire-45758126

-sean

Anonymous said...

ALL - i just heard “Afternoon Delight “ playing in the health club. While Charlie has always been a fan of “afternoon delight” (especially on Saturdays, lol) , it’s really not a motivational song when you’re in the health club sweating and grunting, lol.

Steve W. said...

Charlie, nothing in life has ever been quite as good at rousing me to blind fury as hearing Afternoon Delight on the radio.

Sean, does this mean the deep-fried Chocolate Orange wasn't invented in Scotland? England getting there first is practically an act of war against that nation.

Colin, that's what I'm wondering. If I remember right, another band on that week's show pretended to sing the, "I Don't Think So," line. That may furnish a clue as to which week it was.

Bt, that Drac cover is indeed a decent Gene Colan pastiche.

Everyone else, thanks for letting me know which Marvel heroes can and can't fly. It is information that I'm sure shall serve me well.

Steve W. said...

Colin, I've now done my in-depth research and it seems the David Essex performance was on the TOTP edition for November 21st, 1974 and the band who pretended to sing the , "I don't think so," line were Wings. This week is, therefore, the 50th anniversary of that very occasion.

Anonymous said...

Hulk cannot fly Steve!

Steve W. said...

I shall make a mental note of it.

Anonymous said...

Geeze, whacking a guy’s head off, at the neck, with a dull sword [or a sharp one if you paid the executioner] is as old as time itself!

Per my former french in-laws, the guillotine was invented to save on paying Workmen’s Compensation to the executioner who surely suffered carpal tunnel, shoulder , and / or back injuries whilst performing their profession.

And on this day in 1963, John F. Kennedy was assassinated. While in genera he could not fly, on that day, part of him sure did!

Anonymous said...

Good lord, the health club was playing “Do you like PENA Coladas?”, another syrupy 70s tune, while on the tread mill this evening . Is it better than “AFTERNOON delight ?” Idk… Charlie may have to invest in air buds?!

Anonymous said...

You think that's bad, 'Do They Know It's Christmas?' was playing in my local supermarket earlier.

Steve, I've been to a few places in Scotland over the years, and I have never once seen or even been offered a deep fried chocolate anything. So my suspicion is that its an urban myth, like eating pets in America.

Maybe it is a delicacy recently invented by the English in t'north.
Aren't you fairly near Lincolnshire? Perhaps you'll have deep fried chocolate in Sheffield soon...

-sean

Anonymous said...

Well regarding eating pets in America we did have to instruct the Vietnamese boat people in the 1970s who came by the thousands mostly to California, to not eat the stray dogs and cats. Though not unusual in their culture, Cali wasn’t having it!

Anonymous said...

They do serve deep fried Snickers bars at the county fairs in America. Never had one. Sounds stoopid but supposedly very tasty.

Colin Jones said...

My father was Scottish and he disliked sweet foods especially chocolate bars so he'd have been appalled by the legendary deep-fried Mars Bar!

Charlie, November 22nd was also the date of Margaret Thatcher's resignation in 1990.

Anonymous said...

I was unaware that one could fry chocolate.
And for the sake of my health, I am going to continue to be unaware that one can fry chocolate.

M.P.

Matthew McKinnon said...

Does anyone eat a Chocolate Orange at any time other than at Christmas? It’s literally a Proustian recall mechanism for me - it’s the taste of Christmases past. To eat it any other time would be heresy.

And do you eat I to warm or cold? Has to be straight from the fridge for me.

Anonymous said...

*eat it.

Anonymous said...

M.P., I hear Americans won't have to worry about their health at all soon, with RFK Jr taking on the doctors and other elitist shills for the medical/industrial complex.
Apparently you lot won't be sick anymore once he's stopped the great vaccine holocaust.

-sean

Anonymous said...

On health, here's something to sour your Chocolate Oranges. Yesterday, I coughed up a small amount of blood, so went to the G.P.'s Surgery, and got an appointment later the same day! After walking into town for a second time, a nice female muslim doctor checked my chest, then prescribed me antibiotics straightaway. She also gave me a number to ring, after 3 working days, for a chest X-ray! For once, the NHS gave great service. After this success, however, a young woman on the counter gave me the usual disrespect towards middle-aged males. But that's par for the course. On balance, a good result! Probably RFK'll find some way of screwing more money out of patients for their medication, because money's the only motive for any political stance, these days.

Phillip

Anonymous said...

RFK - the problem is his critical thinking skills are very suspect: alleged brain worm, lead detox from eating too much tuna, leaving a dead bear in Central Park, NYC, cutting the head off a dead beached whale and tying to car’s roof and driving home, and perpetual lying.

Is he really going to improve our nation’s food safety and quality by taking on corporate big-agriculture which is the life blood of EVERY red state? I hope so but I doubt it.

Is he probably going to indirectly kill and cripple millions of kids and adults with his anti-vax vullshit? Probably but hopefully most will be republicans. Jenny “the dumb ass” McCarthy who stsrted all this anti-vax hysteria (and her mate Mark / Donny Wahlberg?) lives 15 minutes north of me in St. Charles , Illinois.

And the “crippling “ has been in progress for a few years now. My fiance, middle school teacher, was sharing stories at dinner last night.

Colin Jones said...

Coughing up blood must have been a frightening experience, Phil, so we all hope you'll be okay! The NHS is indeed wonderful when it works, an example of socialism at its' best and it's amusing how our politicians bend over backwards to praise the NHS whilst somehow pretending it's not a socialist creation. But how much longer can the NHS survive before it collapses under the weight of an ageing, ailing population? The thought of a Badenoch/Farage coalition government getting their claws on the NHS is a horrible thought not to mention the effect of any "trade deal" with Trump's America.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Colin - I had pneumonia, in the early 2000s, so experienced it then, too. The worry is, if a bad cold's going straight onto my chest, and I can't throw it off in my mid-50s, in my 60s/70s/80s, I'm going to have real problems! I can live in hope that, with artificial intelligence, a medical breakthrough might happen by then, consigning chest-infections to history
( but I doubt it! ) Dr.McCoy's reactions to 20th Century medicine in Star Trek IV spring to mind!

I have gripes against the NHS (some quite severe), for my parents' end of life experiences. Nevertheless, my treatment was prompt, yesterday, so I can't complain. In the USA, the same treatment would have cost hundreds of quid, I imagine. What's so bad about a bit of "socialism" ( I've never understood why, to Trump's nutjobs, healthcare not costing individuals hundreds or thousands of pounds is defined as "socialism" ! )

Charlie - On stage, RFK junior had an unnaturally tanned face, but - unlike Trump - it wasn't orange tan, but brown tan, instead. What is it with old male politicians & fake tan? Rather than making them look young & dynamic, it just gives them a raisin-like appearance, their facial features being less distinct ( - this probably a blessing! )

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

Just to announce that I won't be doing my annual report on the weekly UK Xmas charts as I can't be arsed. But I will glance at the Top 100 every week to keep Charlie informed about the progress of Andy Williams's It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year as I will fear for Charlie's sanity if he doesn't know the weekly position of that song in the UK singles chart. I will also report on any unusual activity such as The K*nts getting the Xmas #1 spot (I believe they are strongly tipped this year with their latest heartwarming seasonal ditty, KEIR STARMER IS A F*CKING WANKER).

So I just had a look at this week's Top 100 which features Andy Williams at #62 and the rest of the Xmas songs are the same old, same old with Wham! and Mariah leading the pack but the avalanche of festive tunes hasn't started yet.

Colin Jones said...

(I made up that K*nts song by the way as you possibly realised).

Colin Jones said...

This year I'm also not sending any Christmas cards or buying any bloody mince pies or Christmas cake. I'm going to eat the kind of food I actually like such as quiche, wheels of brie, ready-made turkey & cranberry sandwiches and festive mini pork pies (pork & stuffing, pork & cranberry).

Anonymous said...

Colin - My oven's stopped working (and I'm too tight to buy a new one); so no Christmas meal pies for me, this year. Whatever'll heat up in the microwave's going to be my Christmas fare!

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

Phillip, I rarely bother heating anything up - I always buy food that can be eaten hot or cold.

Steve W. said...

Phillip, I too hope you make a speedy and full recovery.

Steve W. said...

Matthew, I eat my Chocolate Oranges cool but not too cool.

Anonymous said...

COLIN - thank you for keeping me apprised of ANDY WILLIAMS!!!

Hard to believe it’s been a year since we were discussing LAST CHRISTMAS by WHAM here!!! Which is only a XMAS song because of the usage of the word Xmas as far as charlie is concerned!!!

Anonymous said...

PHILLIP-There is no point trying to understand trump supporters here. They defy easy stereotypes.

It my brothers case… his brain is over-ridden by the Catholic church.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Steve : )

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Can someone list a brand name of chocolate oranges I can Google?

Steve W. said...

Anon, Terry's Chocolate Oranges.

Anonymous said...

Charlie - I think that was you? - the funny thing is that during his first Presidency Trump DID screw over big agriculture. His trade war with China seriously damaged them (I believe US soy bean exports completely collapsed).
Turns out, the cost of tariffs can be passed back. Who knew, eh?

I'm curious to see what happens during the Donald's second term. With people like RFK Jr and Elon Musk in government surely its a disaster waiting to happen? Its hard to see them not falling out with each other, sooner rather than later...

-sean

Anonymous said...

Phillip, if you lived nearer me I'd invite you round for dinner at Christmas.
Hope you get well soon.

-sean

Matthew McKinnon said...

Wheels of Brie plural? Good god man, you must have an iron constitution.

Anonymous said...

Phil-

I would like to join everyone here in wishing you good health and better days in the future.
This place would be a drag without you! Take care, my friend.

...as for Trump....
I'm gonna survive the bastard. I'll yet piss on his grave, even if I have to be carried to it.

Screw 'em all. As G.I.'s used to say in Viet Nam, "They can kill us but they can't eat us."
Technically speaking, that wasn't exactly true, but you get the point.

M.P.

Anonymous said...

Sean - Thanks, I really appreciate that. At Christmas, my brother's coming over, often bringing food gifted to him, which he can't eat because he's a vegan. So, he usually gives me it! We'll have a good catch up, anyway.

Thanks, M.P. - Your comments always gives me a lift. We're all thinking about Christmas early, this year. I guess you'll be seeing your big sister (I'm not on good terms with mine! ) Anyway, hope the festive season's promising, despite the (fake tan) Chocolate Orange heading for Pennsylvania Avenue!

Phillip

dangermash said...

The guy across the road from us has declared that he identifies himself as a chocolate orange.

There are rumours going round that they might get him sectioned.

Get well soon Phillip.

Colin Jones said...

Phillip, no offence to your brother but veganism seems like a step too far for me. We humans have evolved to be omnivores and totally cutting out meat and dairy is literally unnatural. I'd be seriously concerned for my health if I was forced to be a vegan but feel free to tell me I'm wrong!

Anonymous said...

Thanks, dangermash. Hopefully, it's a storm in a tea cup!

Colin - My brother's veganism started over thirty years ago. When I was young, I argued & debated with him all those pros & cons, as infinitum. Now, being older, I'm now accepting of his point of view!

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Last night I watched 'Stay Lucky', with Dennis Waterman. It was dated 1989, but I never watched it - or knew about it - at the time. The show starts with southerner, Dennis Waterman, hitchhiking from London to Leeds, on the A1. After some misadventures (with a male truck driver!!!), Waterman gets a lift from Jan Francis, who plays a foul-mouthed, northern woman (quite a contrast from playing well-spoken Penny, in 'Just Good Friends'. ) Later Chris Jury (Eric from Lovejoy) turns up, as does James Grout (John Thaw's boss, in 'Inspector Morse'. ) Apart from an all-star cast, there's north vs south stuff between Waterman & Francis; and when Waterman goes in a pub, up north, and orders a pint, he looks at his change, astonished, and replies: "That's very reasonable!"

Anyway, as a show, it seems interesting. Did anyone watch it, back in the 80s? I suppose the Beiderbecke Connection/Tapes was another 1980s show set in Yorkshire.

If this is tedious, please feel free to ignore!

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Just to be clear, humans have evolved to be opportunistic consumers of calorically-dense foods. Fats have the most calories per gram, at 9 cal per gram as compared to 4 for carbohydrates and proteins.

And, our most likely source of fat is animal meats. Even lean chickenis still 40% fat.

This is all well and good given the billions of years of evolution behind us. But now that we live to be 90 years old instead of 20 - 50, diets heavily dependent on animals is not ideal for longevity.

Regarding dairy, only Caucasians are able to consume it for the most part. 80% of the world is lactose intolerant. for whatever reason in Slovenia 6000 years ago, the gene stopped turning off, which would make Caucasians lactose intolerant. Point being, I am not certain that dairy must be an essential part of our diet as an adult.

All in all, though, my experience with being a vegan is that you better make sure (!!!) you have a source of vitamin B 12 or you will have side effects. Everything else Is easily found in plants.

CH

Anonymous said...

Charlie - Are you, like my brother, a vegan? For his B12, he takes supplements.

Phillip

Redartz said...

Phillip- best wishes for a quick recovery; sure hope you feel better soon! Glad you got prompt and reasonable treatment.

Alas, don't get me started on the state of medical care in the US. I'm still paying on medical bills from 10 years ago. Oh, but no doubt the incoming 'president' (cough, cough) will fix all that. He'll fix everything, right? Or maybe I got that wrong; maybe we''re in a fix...
Thanksgiving week here in the US; the holiday season kicking off with everyone in the grocery buying Thursday's dinner. Haven't seen any chocolate oranges yet, but the Reeses Trees are on the shelves. Oh man....

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Redartz - It'll probably turn out to be nothing. Considering Paul had a heart attack a while back, this pales in comparison.

As regards US medical care, it sounds absolutely shocking. A friend of mine (whom I've lost touch with) and his wife moved to Ohio. His academic job must include health insurance but, even so, I still wonder how they cope.

Isn't the Reeses thing, peanuts inside chocolate? The UK had 'Treets' (peanuts inside a chocolate shell) - similar, but different!

Phillip

Redartz said...

Phillip- Reese's are essentially a creamy peanut butter inside, yes, a chocolate shell. They are generally made in 'cups', but come in various forms for individual holiday sales. They are wonderful, and are my biggest weakness. In college I took photography- one assignment was to do a photo essay. A classmate knew of my fondness for Reese's even then, and offered to buy them if I'd eat some for her photo series. Ended up eating about 20 of them; couldn't even look at one for months afterwards!