Tuesday, 9 December 2025

Forty years ago today - December 1985.

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A wise man once said, "We can be heroes."

Clearly, he'd never met me.

But here are some people who can be heroes.

And often are!

The Avengers #262, Hercules vs Sub-Mariner

From what I can remember, the Avengers hang around on an island, for reasons I don't recall, and Hercules decides to get into a scrap with the Sub-Mariner, in an attempt to cheer up the crown prince of Atlantis.


Speaking of people who need cheering up, the Vulture's depressed because he keeps losing fights with every good guy he encounters.

And that leads to him picking a fight with the man without fear - who he also loses to.

Meanwhile, the Nelson and Murdock law firm has gone bust.

Fantastic Four #285

It's an odd story in which the Human Torch decides to quit super-heroing after learning that a boy who idolises him has set himself on fire in an attempt to be like him.

Well, that's not depressing.

Iron Man #201

I do believe Iron Man spends this issue cleaning up the mess left behind by his fight with Iron Monger.

But what's this? Madame Masque is acting all strange and showing concern for Tony Stark's welfare?

While Bethany Cabe is acting all strange and is plotting his downfall?

Why, if I was a suspicious man, I might think some kind of body-swapping shenanigans are going on.

Sadly, Stark, despite all his experience of super-science villainy, fails to share my suspicions.

Thor #362

Thor and his army manage to spend an entire issue trying to leave Hel.

An attempt that sees a machine-gun-toting Executioner sacrifice himself, in order to save them all.

The Uncanny X-Men #200 , the trial of Magneto

The world's most socially responsible mutants hit their 200th issue with a double-length tale in which Magneto's put on trial for his various crimes against humanity and he gets to argue his case.

The Amazing Spider-Man #271

A cover that brings back memories of Spidey's first meeting with Man Mountain Marko tells us we're about to encounter a ruthless fight manager called Manslaughter who loves to mistreat his employees.

Especially Crusher Hogan, the wrestler our hero fought, way back when he first gained his super-powers

Can the wall-crawler come to his assistance and can he convince everyone at the gym that he and Crusher are old pals?

Aunt May's boyfriend, meanwhile, gets hospitalised by assailants who are a mystery to us but are, clearly, well known to him.

Conan the Barbarian #177

Something or other happens involving a sorcerer.

I think a magic pit may also be involved.

And women.

And magic.

The Incredible Hulk #314

The Hulk's back on Earth - and Doc Samson's determined to administer some psychiatric care.

With his fists.

Obviously, this should be a one-sided fight but it seems Bruce Banner's subconscious is actively distracting the Hulk with hallucinations of his myriad foes.

And that gives the slugging psycho-therapist the chance he needs to deliver some knuckle-therapy to his patient's jaw.

The Spectacular Spider-Man #109

Spider-Man's hot on the trail of Sin-Eater - not to be confused with 1980s pop star Sinitta - and it seems he gets his victory over the fiend.

Victory over Sinitta is, of course, impossible.

But, then, Daredevil shows up to tell him he's nabbed an impostor and the real deal's still on the loose.

And now he's about to kill Betty Leeds!

Captain America #312, Flag-Smasher

There's a man on the rampage who hates nationalism and has no time for flags.

Obviously, the man who wouldn't have a wardrobe if they hadn't invented flags, and is named after a nation, can't put up with that kind of un-American madness!

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Charlie did read SPIDER MAN this past weekend, to remain relevant to “SDC does 40 years ago!”

It is sort of a cute story. Spoiler warning: Spidey does convince all the other dudes hanging around the boxing gym that Crusher is his buddy from… 1964!

As always there is a mismatch of strength. But finally Spidey knocks Manslaughter into next week… kind of like with Sunfire or Firelord or Lord of the Sons (Galactus’s herald) last month. Though in that storey Spidey and Manhattan should have neen obliterated in about 2 seconds.

Anonymous said...

One thing interesting between 50 years ago and 40 years ago is that the thumbnail size advertisements have disappeared. Now, 40 years ago, everything is pretty much a full page ad.

Anonymous said...

The adverts for buying comic book back issues, getting big muscles, getting a job even though you are a high school dropout and, let’s not forget, buying sea monkeys, have all pretty much disappeared.

Matthew McKinnon said...

Sea monkeys! I think I bought some UK equivalent of those in the 70s. From a comic ad, naturally.

So that DD is pretty good. The downward spiral towards Born Again begins, as Foggy reads Matt the riot act. He’s never around to do the work! Fair point.

I had that Thor and recently re-read it in a reprint book. It’s good - nice art!

I really like that black and white Spiderman cover.

Anonymous said...

That bully must have stopped kicking sand in Mac's face, on the beach!

Phillip

The Prowler said...

Prowler took a peek in his private collection and was shocked, SHOCKED, I say, to find Prowler owned Peter Parker TSSM 109!!! Incroyable, n'est ce pas... Prowler has no memory of buying this issue.

Prowler's Uncanny X-Men Vol 1 200 is a "Double Sized Issue". Instead of the normal 36 pages, the issue has been doubled to 52? Instead of 22 pages of story, it's been doubled to 40? Must be metric...

Prowler is pushing PUBLISH.... NOW!!!

Anonymous said...

Some of these are vaguely interesting! I remember the earlier Subby vs Herc, with Hercules referencing "our monumental combat", and "yon hapless village" - classic lines! (Subby # 29.) Namor acquitted himself well, then, all things considered!

That new Subby vs Herc's cover features the Stingray, which is always a plus!

DD vs Vulture's a good combo. But the Vulture gave super-tough Ditko Spidey a run for his money, so he ought to cream Daredevil. I suppose he's an inferior later version, though.

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

Today (Dec 10) is exactly 40 years since Whitney Houston's SAVING ALL MY LOVE FOR YOU reached #1 on the UK singles chart!

And this week is 40 years since Marvel UK's long-running Spider-Man comic finally came to an end after 666 issues - it began as Spider-Man Comics Weekly #1 dated February 17th 1973 (my seventh birthday) and after many name changes finally ended as Spidey Comic #666 dated December 14th 1985.

Colin Jones said...

Mariah Carey reaches #1 on America's Billboard Hot 100 with Wham! at #2 and Brenda Lee at #3 with Andy Williams at #10 for Charlie's information. Sir Macca and Ed Sheeran/Elton John are the only other British songs listed.

Colin Jones said...

I was in Tesco this morning looking at their books, one of which was an autobiography by Paul Gascoigne with a photo of him on the cover and I was shocked at how he's aged - he looked about 70 even though he's only 58. This is of interest to me because back in the day (1988 to 1992 or thereabouts) I was told I looked like Gazza but I don't look like him nowadays!

Anonymous said...

Colin - Dec 14th was the wedding anniversary of my parents.

One of my schoolmates had a vague Gazza look about him ( so, perhaps it's not uncommon! ) I didn't tell him, though, unsure of his reaction.

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

What year were they married, Phillip? My parents got married on January 1st 1954 (New Year's day didn't become a holiday in England & Wales until 1974).

Anonymous said...

Colin, it was 1950! Winter wedding anniversaries make it safe to assume registry office job, not a full church do!

Phillip

Colin Jones said...

Phillip, my father was in hospital when he got married! I don't know if my parents were married in the hospital or went to a registry office (I'm embarrassed to admit I never enquired!) but it definitely wasn't a church wedding.

A few years ago I discovered that the first ever colour TV broadcast in the United States occurred on the very same day as my parents' wedding, January 1st 1954.

Anonymous said...

Charlie is mystified that Ronnie and the Ronettes are not charting!!!

Anonymous said...

Steve - did you watch Look North yesterday? Sheffield's 'Dutch roundabout' featured, with somebody named Stephen Walker interviewed!

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Did you know Otis Redding died 58 years ago today, 12/10. The small plane he was on crashed into a small lake in Wisconsin.

Sitting by the Dock on the Bay was not finished and released posthumously.

The Historian

Steve W. said...

Historian, I didn't know that. For some reason, I always misread the song title as, "Sitting on the Duck of the Bay, " which I find fatally undermines its pathos.

Phillip, I didn't see that report. I can officially confirm that the man being interviewed was definitely not me.

When it comes to roundabouts, my great regret is that Sheffield briefly had a Swindon style Magic Roundabout, near the Arts Tower but then got rid of it.

Colin Jones said...

Charlie, SLEIGH RIDE by The Ronettes is in both the US Billboard Hot 100 and the UK Top 100.

I've finally tried a Panettone (mini version) and it's rather similar to a hot cross bun in my opinion.

The Prowler said...

"Vague look about him"!?! That was Prowler's middle name in high school!!!

Prowler's pushing PUBLISH... NOW!!!

The Prowler said...

Prowler spent some time flipping through his December 1985 Marvel Comics. Fantastic Four Vol 1 285 was supposed to be about the tragic death of a young Human Torch fan and The Beyonder helping Johnny to come to grips with his power set and identity. Any pathos engendered by the story was grossly overshadowed by Sue Storm's mullet. And there it is...

One other comic from December 1985 was Marvel's Heroes For Hope. Marvel wanted to remind the world that "it's Christmas time, there's no need to be afraid. At Christmas time, we let in light and we banish shade".

Or something to that effect....

Prowler's pushing PUBLISH NOW!!!

Anonymous said...

That really is a terrible Magneto costume on the cover of X-Men #200. Thankfully it didn't last for long.

And why is he dressed up in it anyway? Turning up in a super-villain costume when you're on trial for crimes against humanity seems pretty stupid. Even I have enough sense to smarten myself up a bit and wear a suit for court appearances.

As I recall the prosecution of Magneto was led by British attorney general Jim Jaspers. Chris Claremont was apparently a fan of the two Alans' - Moore and Davis - Captain Brexit series, and this was supposed to be the start of a storyline involving Jaspers and the Fury. But he dropped it when he heard that Moore had a problem with Marvel (I think over a lack of royalties for US reprints of his Dr Who stuff). Good for Claremont.

-sean