Sunday, 26 January 2025

January 1985 - Marvel UK monthlies, 40 years ago this month.

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There's an awful lot of talk of electric cars, these days but that's nothing new. Back in January 1985, the whole world was about to rush out and buy such a vehicle, thanks to that month's launch of the Sinclair C5, a battery-assisted car designed by the British inventor Clive Sinclair. It was, in very many ways, the Tesla Cybertruck of its day and it's no surprise that every single UK home has one in its garage.

Almost as successful and iconic are, of course, Britain's red telephone boxes but, in January 1985, they were about to become an endangered species. For, that was the very time British Telecom announced it was going to phase them out. However, forty years later, there are still plenty to be found if one knows the magic places in which to look for them.

But what of human suffering? It seemed the levels of it were about to be reduced - at least physically if not musically - because in the United States, the charity single We Are the World was busy being recorded by USA for Africa.

And speaking of music, that single's British forebear Do They Know It's Christmas? by Band Aid kicked off January atop the UK singles chart before being deposed by Foreigner's I Want to Know What Love Is.

While, on the associated album chart, the month arrived with Various Artists' The Hits Album dominant before that was displaced by Alison Moyet's Alf which then had to make way for Foreigner's fancily titled Agent Provocateur.

Starburst #77, Gremlins

The nation's favourite sci-fi mag is back to give us all the latest goss on the worlds of speculative fiction.

And that means Joe Dante's here to talk about his new film Gremlins

We also gain an insight into Giorgio Moroder's take on Metropolis, a look at Aussie pig horror Razorback and a retrospective of the film the world can only refer to as Psycho.

Doctor Who Magazine #96, Colin Baker

It's a rare honour indeed for Colin Baker, as he's actually allowed to appear on the front cover of the magazine dedicated to the show he's the star of.

And so is Peri actress Nicola Bryant.

And, speaking of which, Bryant's the subject of an interview contained within. I suspect this is still during the period in which she's under orders to pretend to be an American. A pretence which I'm sure, has fooled us all.

Elsewhere, Doctor Who producer John Nathan-Turner gives us his report on America's Panopticon West Convention. And there's a look back at anniversary special The Five Doctors.

Savage Sword of Conan #87

Arnie is before us again, as the company's adaptation of his film Conan the Destroyer continues unassuaged.

And there's a fabulous role-playing competition!

Other than that, all I can say is this book is also still incorporating strips from The Mighty World of Marvel but I could not, for the life of me, say which ones.

Captain Britain #1

But what's this? Just when it seemed Marvel UK was in terminal decline, a brand new publication hits the shops of this fair land?

And starring none other than Captain Britain?

With chutzpah like that, how could it possibly fail?

In our main story, it could be trouble for the good captain when his old nemesis Chief Inspector Dai Thomas tells his superiors he has suspicions Captain Britain and Brian Braddock may be none other than the same person!

Then we have Abslom Daak in The Making of a Dalek Killer, as reprinted from the pages of Doctor Who Weekly #17.

Then we get what appears to be a reprint of Night-Raven's first ever appearance, from way back in 1979's Hulk comic #1.

Next, there's a four-page outing for something called Paragon of Painthorpe Street. I have no idea what it is but it's the handiwork of John Tomlinson and Jeff Anderson.

And, just to send us home happy, we finish off with The Freefall Warriors from Steve Parkhouse and Jerry Paris.

28 comments:

dangermash said...

Further to recent conversations, I had to have a go at painting Paul Dirac this afternoon.

https://artisticactuary.com/the-strangest-man/

Matthew McKinnon said...

I’m confused and I’m sure you’re all bored with hearing about this. But I had that Starburst. I don’t know what’s real and what’s not any more. I was sure that subscription would was cancelled by now.

I did not like Gremlins. I’ve never really warmed to Joe Dante movies. I like the eccentric bits in them but I feel there’s a lot of dead wood as well. He doesn’t really know how to bring the more pedestrian parts of a script together interestingly.

I bought the first few issues of Captain Britain but the whole enterprise was just boring. The Daredevils worked because - let’s be honest - Alan Moore wrote most of it. And I already had the Abslom Daak stories from Marvel reprint mag from 18 months earlier. The rest of it was filler filler filler.

I quit the mag altogether when Megan transformed into a sexy super heroine. Even at that age I thought ‘Really? You can’t have her remain ugly and interesting? How old are you?’

Dr Who looks like he’s been papped coming out of a nightclub.

Anonymous said...

*subscription would have been cancelled by now.

Anonymous said...

I remember Moroder’s METROPOLIS getting a right thrashing from film critics back in the day. I know it’s heresy, but Moroder’s version was the first iteration of the silent classic that I was able to sit through without falling asleep. The storyline was still kinda muddled and naive, but the color tinting and synth-disco-pop score added a level of camp theatricality that made it fun to watch (while not making fun of it) and actually moving in places. The musical line-up is unabashedly 80s — Loverboy, Pat Benatar, Bonnie Tyler, Billy Freaking Squier — and cheesy as hell but boy do I dig it.

Matthew, I didn’t care for GREMLINS either. Like, at all. I loved-loved-loved THE HOWLING but found most of Dante’s following movies disappointing for one reason or another. GREMLINS, EXPLORERS, NEIGHBORS, his segment of TWILIGHT ZONE-THE MOVIE, etc — a string of odd mis-fires, IMHO.

CAPTAIN BRITAIN #1: I actually bought that one back when it was brand-new. I was surprised to find it on sale here at one of my local comics shops. I remember being impressed by Davis’ but not much about the actual story.

b.t.

Anonymous said...

Pedants' corner - Hull's 'phone boxes are cream-coloured!

Maybe Dai's suspicions could be allayed if Brian Braddock called himself "Mike Braddock", wore an over-sized pair of shades, and dressed up as Thor. That way, everyone would automatically be convinced that Brian's brother, "Mike", is Captain Britain, not Brian himself. Daredevil had no problem pulling it off !

I'll get my coat...

Phillip

Anonymous said...

Interesting, dangermash. Not as good as the one of Giant
Haystacks, but better than, er... Michael Portillo (eh?)

-sean

Anonymous said...

b.t., Contemporary music is always going to make old silent films more watchable, but I don't know that it needs to be specially commissioned. For instance I reckon this clip from Metropolis - the Moloch Machine, with added Pink Floyd - works really well -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AY09DJkQMY

And as it happens I'm not that keen on Moroder's music for the film. I mean, Bonnie Tyler...?!? Apparently Bowie was interested in getting the rights around the same time, which might have been preferable. Mind you, given the kind of music he was generally putting out in the 80s, maybe not...

I think Moroder got more stick at the time for the restoration/new cut though? And the colourisation of course.
My understanding is that he hadn't planned on a new cut, but there wasn't a complete version of Metropolis at the time so he had to put one together. Seems a bit unfair to blame him for that, especially as he used all the footage he could get. I don't think there was a complete version until an original one was found in the 00s?
The colour though... I can see that's questionable.

I wasn't convinced by the Pet Shop Boys' version of 'Battleship Potempkin' either...

-sean

Anonymous said...

Steve, the record of the month in January '85 was surely crazy Swiss dudes Yello's bid to move into the mainstream and become pop stars, the 'Stella' album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psiheKiQfsI

For a musical window into the time - probably more for your British readers of a certain age (and listening habits) - John Peel's Festive Fifty from December 1984 was recently posted on Youtube. Sadly not in time for a link to make any of the 40 Year Ago posts last month, but better a little late then never.
Some good stuff - Propaganda, Robert Wyatt - a lot of the kind of 'indie' you'd expect like the Cocteau Twins and the Smiths (eh) and a bit of forgotten rubbish for anyone interested...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95dGgWYas1w

-sean

Anonymous said...

Charlie here . iIRC john peel was a radio show host like our Dr. Demento sort of?

Anonymous said...

sean:
There are titles at the start of Moroder’s cut that say something to the effect that it’s the most complete print available, but that some sequences are still missing; that the print has been upgraded and restored; and that color tinting has been added, as was fairly common with movies of that era. There are some shots that go a bit beyond just tinting (mostly in the effects-heavy sequence where Rotwang creates the duplicate Maria) but it’s tastefully done and definitely isn’t Ted Turner-style ‘colorization’.

As for the music — well, yes, some songs are better than others, the lyrics are often clumsy and/or too literal, etc. I have the soundtrack album on CD and have listened to it so many times that even the Bonnie Tyler and Billy Squier tracks have grown on me.

b.t.

dangermash said...

Cheers Sean. Seems that I'm better with dead subjects than live ones. Doesn’t auger well for my chances if I make it in to Portrait Artist Of The Year.

Colin Jones said...

Only 6 months left until UK Savage Sword Of Conan got cancelled (final issue #93 dated July 1985).

Arnold Schwarzenegger loathes Trump.

Anonymous said...

In fairness to Moroder, b.t., I've heard other soundtracks for Metropolis, by Detroit techno DJ Jeff Mills, and by Dieter Moebius - you may recall him as one half of 70s German synth wonks Cluster, and from Brian Eno collaborators Harmonia - and they weren't too good either.

Maybe as a film it just invites electronic music cliches? Part of its modern appeal is as 'retro', and even on its original release Metropolis was seen as a bit of a naive take on the future. HG Wells disliked it for that very reason, as did Fritz Lang himself in retrospect. I suppose he did live through the rise of the Nazis party and leave Germany because of them, so you could see how he might look back on Weimar era predictions as a bit clueless about how bad things could actually get.
Hmm, that sounds like the cue for a gratuitous remark about the new US President and his tech bro billionaire cronies plans to reshape the world in their image... but I will resist it!

-sean

Colin Jones said...

Charlie, John Peel was nothing like Dr Demento. For decades John Peel had a late-night show on BBC Radio One which played unknown or up-and-coming bands. BBC Radio One was mainly a Top 40 pop station but Peel's show at night was allowed to be very different. Around 1993 most of Radio One's DJs got fired because they were considered too old and out of touch but John Peel was allowed to carry on broadcasting because he was considered cool and relevant.

In December I watched Grumpy Old Men Christmas Special from 2003 (on YouTube) which featured John Peel and I was curious about when he'd actually died so I googled him and was surprised it was October 2004 - I didn't realise he'd died so long ago. How quickly time passes!

Anonymous said...

I like the take on Metropolis from the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen spin off Nemo - 'Roses of Berlin' - by Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill. In which 1940s Berlin is presented as a combination of Metropolis, and the Cabinet of Dr Caligari, run by the dictator Adenoid Hynkel.

On the subject of Hynkel, here's a clip of from the Great Dictator -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GY1Xg6X20

Thats pretty cool. And quite relevant today, unfortunately.

-sean

Anonymous said...

The 'Festive Fifty' was when Peel played the 50 most popular records with his listeners at the end of the year, so it gives you a pretty good idea of the programme in the early-mid 80s, when it was on for a couple of hours from ten to midnight, Monday to Thursday.
(The Friday slot was taken by the Friday Rock Show with Tommy Vance, which covered the rock diaspora, which back then would have been mainly Metal. Metal being big here in the first half of the 80s. And the second half too. Actually, it always seems to be big)

Like I said, the Cocteau Twins and the Smiths were the kind of thing that was popular with Peel's audience, and he was really into the Fall so they got played a lot too. But there'd be all kinds of other stuff - reggae/dub, African music, hip hop, electro, even a bit of bangra, and by the end of the decade and into the 90s the various sub- and micro- genres of the techno bleep continuum.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Colin, there were a lot of programmes on Radio One - pretty much anything after 6pm during the week - that weren't about the Top 40.

-sean

McSCOTTY said...

I was surprised that the great John Peel was a big fan of Status Quo. Hard to believe he passed away in 2004 Colin, like yourself I didn't realise it was so long ago .

Sean I went to see The Fall with a mate that was a massive fan of the band. As I wasnt that aware of their stuff I listened to them on the John Peel show and was not impressed. However, at the gig ( when Mark E Smith eventually turned up an hour late) they put on a great gig.

Anonymous said...

The former SDCer known as Colin Bray emailed me links to a John Peel show-archives site but i could never get it to launch.

Any of you recommend something?

CH47

Anonymous said...

Hi Charlie you should be able to listen to the John Peel show from the internet archives link below. Just click on the date of the show then "Player" noted above the show archive list. I think this is a US site so should work for you, it did for me in Scotland.


https://archive.org/details/JohnPeel1979

Anonymous said...

Sorry above from me, Mc Scotty

Anonymous said...

I think the plan that Captain Britain monthly would be all UK generated material was good, even if the commercial reality meant a portion would be reprint. Sydney Jordan's Jeff Hawke was supposed to be included, which would have been interesting but probably not able to impact sales. I suspect the titles success relied upon (and assumed) US reprints, which would have started with the Alan Moore material, and could have been a nice on-going US monthly, had it hadn't all gone tits up.

DW

Anonymous said...

Had it all not gone tits up

Anonymous said...

MCSCOTTY! Thanks a bunch! May your Oor Wullie bucket never rust!!!

Anonymous said...

DW - Seriously??? Tango Uniform??? I thought only us veterans knew that expression!

Although when at Army paratrooper school we sang of being “buried in the leaning rest” which was the oushw-up position or “tits down!”

Much gratitude from the Charlie Horse 47! You made my day twice as nice!

Colin Jones said...

Charlie, "tits up" is a common British expression

In the 1990s John Peel wrote a weekly column in the Radio Times and in one of his columns he wrote about how he'd lived in America for a while and explained American politics for his British readers...

"The Republicans are like our Conservative Party and the Democrats are like our Conservative Party".

Redartz said...

Ah, gentle folks! This uninformed naif has a question. This expression you've mentioned: "tits up". Not familiar with it, in fact heard it for the first time just a few years ago. The character of Suzie on the show "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel" would use the phrase (fanastic show, btw- anyone else here seen it?). What does it actually mean? My take from Mrs. Maisel was that it was kind of like 'chin up, head high'...

Steve W. said...

Red, "Tits up," means disastrously wrong. As in, "It's all gone tits up."