Tuesday 9 January 2024

Forty years ago today - January 1984.

Thanks to Charlie Horse 47 and Killdumpster for their sponsorship of this post, via the magic of Patreon
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Let us delve, once more, into what the world's mightiest heroes have to offer us in that far-off land that wise men know as Yesteryear.

Daredevil #202

Hooray! It's Assistant Editors Month!

And that means we can look forward to a whole pile of stories that wouldn't have seen the light of day under any sane circumstances.

The first example we consume is a bizarre one in which Daredevil meets a character who's clearly Tarzan. But a Tarzan totally devoid of the traits that might make him admirable.

When one of his wives gets run over by a car, the jungle lord decides to take it out on everybody else, despite not being that bothered that she's been killed.

Meanwhile, in the issue's backup tale, a schoolboy's in-depth report on Daredevil is interrupted by a fight between that red-clad hero and someone called Turk.

Fantastic Four #262

Reed Richards is still on trial for saving the life of Galactus and, thus, dooming the Skrull homeworld.

However, the prosecution hasn't counted on the Watcher, Galactus and even Eternity showing up to provide evidence for the defence.

The strangest part of this story is that its writer and artist John Byrne appears in it when he's taken along to watch the trial in person.

The Incredible Hulk #291

It's another fourth-wall breaker, as Bruce Banner decides to visit the offices of Marvel writer/editor Anne Nocenti and bemoan his lot in life, while she tries to gee him up.

However, ashamed of himself for committing treason in his vendetta against the Hulk, Thunderbolt Ross decides the best way to make amends for it is by killing himself.

Then he decides it isn't.

Iron Man #178

In our first story of the issue, a gang of kids who role-play as the Avengers expel their Iron Man stand-in, on the grounds that the real Shellhead's left the real Avengers.

Needless to say, he's not best pleased about this turn of events.

And, needless to say, events soon show them what a mistake they've made.

Meanwhile, in our second tale, Tony Stark manages to go a whole day without booze, thanks to a bet from a cop who has it in for alcoholics.

The Spectacular Spider-Man #86

And things just get stranger, this month, as Spider-Man must deal with the return of the Fly - in a tale drawn by cartoonist Fred Hembeck, in the style of Fred Hembeck.

Meanwhile, will Spider-Man reveal his true identity to the Black Cat?

The Amazing Spider-Man #248, the kid who collects Spider-Man

In the first of this issue's stories, Spidey completes his fight with Thunderball whose power's been amplified by his acquisition of the Wrecker's magic crowbar.

And, in its second yarn, the wallcrawler visits a young fan, explains his powers, tells him his origin and even reveals his secret identity to him.

Has the man gone completely mad?

No. He's only done it because he knows his secrets are safe in the hands of someone who's about to drop dead from leukemia.

Thor #339

The Mighty Thor clearly has no time for all this Assistant Editors malarkey. His book gives us a perfectly normal tale in which Odin has dwarves create a hammer for Beta Ray Bill and then sends him back into space to rescue his people.

And Thor decides he wants to tag along too!

The Avengers #239, David Letterman

It's all meant to be fun and games, as the surplus-to-requirements Avengers agree to make a guest appearance on David Letterman's show.

Sadly for them, would-be super-villain Fabian Stankowicz decides to try and kill them all, live on air.

Meanwhile, back at the Avengers Mansion, the Vision's attitude is getting more unsettling by the day.

The Uncanny X-Men #177

In a tale drawn by Jazzy John Romita, Mystique practices fighting the X-Men, with the aid of Arcade's robots - and it's all part of her plan to free Rogue from the heroes' clutches!

However, it turns out she has a noticeable reluctance to harm Nightcrawler.

Just why could that be?

And how could it tie in with him not knowing who his mother is?

Captain America #289

In our main adventure, Cap returns to the present and tries to prevent the Brand Corporation's planned massacre of all super-heroes.

However, in our backup tale, Bernie Rosenthal has a dream about what it'd be like if she were Captain America and in the Avengers.

Conan the Barbarian #154

In this month's thrilling tale from before the dawn of history, someone called Raskos tries to form an alliance with some man-bats.

Happily, that plan doesn't get him anywhere, because Conan leads a bunch of bird-men to victory against those man-bats.

I'm hoping at least one of the Bird-Men sounds like Brian Blessed.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

charlie’s opinion has always been the Hulk cover was 100% inappropriate.

Fantastic Four follower said...

Marvel was entering a golden era including a 70 issue run of Amazing Spiderman including Stern,Frenz and MacFarlane:Simonsons Thor: Byrne on the FF ; Miller returning to DD; John Buscema returning to Avengers(layouts only sadly but helped by Palmer):Web and Spectacular above average and a new lease of life for The Hulk:Xmen too was improving as was the majority of the line.Comics were exciting again.Great times!Happy new year to everyone.

Anonymous said...

I love the go-go checks and fake DC comics logo on some of these. Those wacky Assistant Editors!

I remember thinking the David Letterman guest shot in AVENGERS was about as funny as the MARVEL TEAM-UP with the Not Ready For Prime Time Players. Meaning, not very.

b.t.

Charlie Horse 47 said...

MP!

Glad to know you ain't "pushin up daisies!" (I learned that saying as a kid watching John Wayne on an episode of the Lucille Ball Show, lol.)

Glad you liked the stamps! A little googling, cause I don't remember anymore, US Postal did releases of both Marvel and DC and Archie and comic strip characters starting around 15 - 20 years ago. So I bought several sheets. I guess I could sell them on ebay, but wth... People seem to get a kick out of them.

When Charlie is feeling a little impish, he uses his Marilyn Monroe stamps, which actually need to be licked. Kind of weird to think Charlie is running his tongue over the back side of Marilyn Monroe...

And, of course, thanks for the snow. Not.


Charlie Horse 47 said...

Btw... as one might expect, the Marvel stamps are way cooler than the DC stamps.

And of course the Archie, Calvin and Hobbes, etc. bring a big smile!

Anonymous said...

I agree that Hulk cover wasn't the best idea. Probably more so, that is coincides with the dopey assistant editor month.

Conversely, 'the kid who collects spider-man' was quite sensitively written. Well done Roger Stern.

If I had any of these it would have been X-men, which I probably did buy but don't recall. Wiki informs me Mystique is actually Nightcrawler's father (not mother). That I didn't see coming.


DW

Anonymous said...

Its political correctness gone mad, DW. I assume the 80s equivalent of Fox News was suitably outraged.

Steve - Assistant Editors Month, eh? What a whacky, crazy place the Shooter-era bullpen was.
I kinda like the DC checkerboard thing on some of these covers, but it seems a bit half arsed. At the very least you'd think those assistants would have been zany enough to get rid of the corner boxes, to complete the look.
Disappointing it doesn't seem to have occurred to any of them to commission pastiche cover artwork in the actual style of silver age DCs. Maybe with a gorilla or two...

If the idea was to have a bit of a dig at DC as old fashioned, this wasn't the month to do it as the competition took a leap forward with Saga of the Swamp Thing #20, Alan Moore's first US work, and also put out Green Lantern #172 - the first full issue drawn by Dave Gibbons, doing the main feature as well as the GL Corps back-up - and Frank Miller's Ronin #4.
The only comparable Marvel was Thor #339.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Not read that Hulk, but to be fair to Thunderbolt Ross a year or two later he did shoot Rick Jones, so that's something in his favour.

On the other hand, he didn't get that right either, and Rick survived.

-sean

Matthew McKinnon said...

I recently had a scoot through the Marvel Comics back issues database as I’m looking forward to the Masterworks series finally getting to the late Janson and early Mazzucchelli stuff. I was surprised when I saw this one, as I didn’t realise the Micah Sinn character was introduced so early. It’s a duff issue yet again.

I’d forgotten the Assistant Editors month thing. You notice the prestige issues here are having nothing to do with it - the magnificent Thor and quite good FF remain untouched. V wise.

I must still be buying Iron Man at this point as I liked Luke McDonnell’s layouts, and I see Tony Stark hasn’t hit rock bottom yet. I think I got rid of all the issues except the one with the alcoholic lady giving birth in the snow.

I seem to remember picking up this FF as I was giving it a try for a little while. But I never really warmed to Byrne’s dashed-off-quickly-with-felt-tip-pens art so I ducked out after a couple of issues.

Sean’s right - DC were catching fire at this point. I picked up the Moore and the Gibbons excitedly in darkest midwinter 1983.


Anonymous said...

Don't know about the FF not being involved in Assistant Editors Month, Matthew - the story starts with the assistant editor discussing the issue's approaching deadline with John Byrne, who has to go to the trial of Galactus to find out what's happening...
I agree about Byrne's artwork looking dashed off by this point though. His FF is past its best at this point.

Btw, I just noticed Daredevil has a 'Pop Art productions' cover.
So its a general nostalgia thing this month then. I take back any suggestion a go at DC might have been involved. They were still doing better stuff though.

-sean

Anonymous said...

Byrne interjecting himself into the story made me groan a little bit!
Arggh.

M.P.

Charlie Horse 47 said...

MP - Shoot me a text! My # is in the letter. Btw... those superhero stamps are selling on ebay for about $4 - 5 over face ($3 of that is shipping), for a sheet of 20. Maybe if one person has a several sheets you can spread out the shipping or get them at face? You can't sell back stamps anymore to the post office nor convert them to different denominations.

I can't tell you how tired I am of licking Marilyn Monroe's $.33 back side. I bought like 4 - 5 sheets.

Anonymous said...

Charlie, I don't have texting abilities. I either use a land line or a trac phone. I'm not sure I even understand how a text works.
I am an unfrozen caveman. Or perhaps a noble savage, trapped in a world he never made.
And jeez, the way the weather is headed here in the Dakotas, I might end up a re-frozen caveman.
The other night, I hadda clean the snow off my car with a shovel, which, when I was doing the windshield, sent one of my windshield wipers spinning off into the polar darkness.
I will check out those stamps on ebay (they looked pretty cool), although after ponying up for a new set of wipers...
Good to hear from you again my friend!
Stay warm.

M.P.

Matthew McKinnon said...

It never works. I remember reading Cerebus The Aardvark and being enthralled, and then Sim does a pull-back and writes himself into the story and right there lost my interest.

Anonymous said...

Yeah! That's what I'm talking about.
It's like, I dunno..self-indulgent. I mean, for a writer.
But Sim had a tendency to get carried away with any idea that popped into that head of his.
Up to and including his theories on the nature of women and God.
Yikes!

M.P.

Anonymous said...

Never, Matthew? What about Art Spiegelman putting himself in Maus?
Quite a bit of Robert Crumb's better work includes himself in it. Harvey Pekar, and American Splendour...?

I suppose that's a bit different to John Byrne turning up in an FF story.
In that vein - and coincidentally enough, as I linked to it under this month's 50 Years Ago post - 'His Name is Kane' (originally from House of Mystery #180) is entertaining imo.
An even better example might be Kane drawing himself again in his last ever comic, when Alan Moore wrote him into Judgement Day Aftermath #1...

-sean

Anonymous said...

And then there's all the times Tharg put himself in stories in the galaxy's greatest comic!
Surely you couldn't have a problem with that, Matthew?

-sean

Matthew McKinnon said...

I really do! I do have a problem with that!

I know it's old fashioned. but in most cases I want the narrator to be invisible. I want to be told a story without it getting all self-reflexive and meta. Especially if the idea is that it's 'fun' doing so - which is the Byrne thing I guess.

Especially with comics where you need a fully, reinforced suspension of disbelief.

I don't even like it when Alan Moore does it. That last chapter of Voice Of The Fire where it's about him and his daily life... I mean, it's not bad, but I still don't need the presence of the writer overshadowing the carefully constructed fictions of the preceding chapters.

By coincidence, I started rewatching American Splendor the other day for the first time since I saw it in the cinema, and I couldn't make it past twenty minutes because all the different levels of 'reality' and 'fiction' were annoying me too much.

Anonymous said...

M.P. - I'm technophobic, too! Getting my first mobile phone, about 3 weeks ago (it was a necessary requirement for a particular project) - how to insert the SIM card was a complete mystery to me, as was how to use the damn phone! Luckily, my brother - who's more technical - visited, and put me in the picture! I'll probably never use the stupid thing again.

Today - to make a change - fate's finally smiled on me, as my book's now on sale, in the Kindle store.

Even in the 70s, Marvel creators appeared in stories. But, usually, it was collectively - things like Marvel Bullpen softball teams. Writers/artists casting themselves in their own stories, however, is not good.

Phillip

Redartz said...

M.P.- good to see you back ! If you get too much snow up your way, I'd take some here in Louisville; all we ever get is rain...

Can't let this discussion pass without tossing in some praise for Amazing Spider-Man 248! "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man " may be my favorite single Spidey story. "Assistant Editors Month" had some pretty varied offerings, with varied levels of success. But "Kid" was a total winner. I still can't read it without tearing up a bit. And Ron Frenz' Ditko channeling was beautiful to behold.

Steve W. said...

Phillip, congratulations on getting your book on Amazon. You can post a link to it, on here, if you want to make it easier for people to find it.